(08-02-2018, 07:22 AM)copycat Wrote:

(08-01-2018, 07:06 PM)mikesez Wrote: The only tax that, when cut, creates more revenue in the short term, is a sales tax or a capital gains tax.  This is because people can delay their activity until after the rate is reduced.  Income taxes do not work like that in the short term.  People don't delay their wages.  
In the long term, reductions to income tax can spur consumer spending which in turn can add to wages and payrolls and in turn give more money to the government in the end.  But that long term effect is uncertain.  It doesn't happen every time and is less likely to happen when the economy is at full employment already.

As for blaming the problem on automatic spending increases, isn't that changing the subject?  My point is, all else equal, the tax cuts I listed reduced receipts by the government more often than not.
Bringing spending levels into the discussion breaks the "all else equal" part.

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You're shadow boxing.
No one here wants anyone to stop thinking and stop doing math.

If we are having a discussion about deficits then you have to include all aspects.  Since the biggest reason for our out of control deficit is spending then you have to enter it into the discussion.

Did Congress discuss cutting spending while they were discussing Trump's tax cuts? I don't think they did. Why should we?
In fact, Congress admitted that those tax cuts would increase the deficit by 1.5 trillion dollars. They budgeted for that.  As they moved dollars around, the idea was to keep the total right about there.  
Do we really think that we know the budget better than they do?
All else being equal, tax cuts increase the deficit.

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(08-02-2018, 07:14 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:

(08-01-2018, 10:16 PM)mikesez Wrote: If I tried to explain what I stood for it would take a long time and bore you to tears.  Even at the end it probably would not "add up" to you.  
I'm not sure, but when you say, "add up," you mean that, my beliefs should "go together" in some sense, that if I want more government in health insurance, I must also want more government in censorship, or University admissions, or labor unions, or housing policy, etc. Is that what you mean?

No, we understand that you think you can create just the right amount of tyranny to create freedom. It's really what all your takes boil down to when you read them.

The question was for pirkster.  I already know the answer from our resident John Galt cosplayer.

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