(08-30-2018, 08:29 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(08-30-2018, 06:50 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: Can you explain how the current growth seen today is a direct result of one or more of President Obama's policies?  Please don't use the "he brought us out of a recession" argument.  The bank bailouts and the bailouts of the auto industry were already pretty much put into place before he even took the Oath of Office.

His "cash for clunkers" policy was a total failure and a waste of money.

Obamacare (aka The Affordable Care Act) was also a failure, especially when it comes to the economy.

So please explain how the current growth of the economy is a "direct result" of President Obama's policy(s).



A pollution license.  Just think about that concept for a minute.

Meanwhile, you stated under B) that it "doesn't involve anybody giving more money to the government".  Then towards the end of your statement you state that the government will not collect any revenue on an ongoing basis, just one time, yet your very next sentence states "The carbon tax allows the government to collect revenue on an ongoing basis"...  It's all in the underlined part of your quote.

So here are direct questions for you.

1)  Does another tax involve someone giving more money to the government?

2)  Will the government collect any revenue on an ongoing basis or would it be a one time tax?

3)  Are you saying that releasing carbon dioxide into the atmosphere should be taxed?  Is that what a "pollution license" is supposed to be for?

You are tripling down on your error.  The terms "cap and trade" and "carbon tax" are not interchangeable.

Cap  and Trade: government gets a small amount of revenue one time, and maybe intermittently after that. Amount of CO2 released within that country's borders does not exceed the cap. Cost impacts are not predictable, the value of the licenses/permits may vary widely, but the money is all changing hands between banks, insurers, and polluters, not the government.

Carbon tax: government gets a continuous stream of revenue.  Fuels cost a bit more, like when they raise the gas tax.  There is no cap and people can pollute more, they'll just pay more tax.

Government license and one time fee are contradictory terms.  Just saying.  And he same government that looses hundreds of billions of dollars a year because of waste fraud abuse and the inefficiency of the income tax is going to be able to accurately enforce a tax on atmospheric distribution....  

How's the cap on annual visas to enter the country worked over the last say... 50 years?

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