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Trump appointed judge orders Jim Acosta’s press pass be reissued

  • Offline MalabarJag
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11-19-2018, 01:08 AM

(11-18-2018, 10:38 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(11-18-2018, 10:01 PM)Last42min Wrote: So, just so we're clear, if you told me the data didn't support my conclusion, and then I linked a historical anecdote in defense of a much broader claim, you would be cool with that? You're smart enough to know how data should be used in a political discussion.

My claim is that I'm believing the same things while all the other Republicans have changed.
I showed both Reagan and Bush making arguments that Trump would laugh at.
Whether Reagan or Trump is right is besides the point and don't be distracted by that.
The point is that the Republican party is moving, and fast.

Are you still living in 1980? Circumstances have greatly changed. 

Mexicans can find employment in Mexico, that was not true in 1980.

The US did pass a comprehensive immigration reform under Reagan. It failed, and became a blanket amnesty, the enforcement side being totally ignored. Conservatism does not require one to be fooled twice.

In 1980 the illegals were coming to find jobs and become American citizens. Now more than 50% are coming to get US welfare while still holding 
allegiance to their original countries. There are a much higher percentage of criminals among them. Do you really believe that Reagan and Bush would welcome this batch?

Reagan also spoke of the concern of Mexico being another Cuba, and a satellite of the Soviet Union. That was a huge concern in 1980, but is inapplicable now.

There were and still are debates about trade deals. The bottom line is that Trump has been fixing bad deals made by previous administrations. Apparently you don't like that, and prefer that other countries get more favorable terms.



                                                                          

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RE: Trump appointed judge orders Jim Acosta’s press pass be reissued - by MalabarJag - 11-19-2018, 01:08 AM



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