House Dems move to eliminate Electoral College, limit presidential pardon power

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House Dems move to eliminate Electoral College, limit presidential pardon power

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01-04-2019, 01:39 PM

(01-04-2019, 01:21 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-d...-days-back

Both sound like good ideas to me.
The idea that a President might pardon himself makes us prone to turning into a dictatorship, putting one man too far above the law.
Eliminating the electoral college and going with a national popular vote is also an improvement, making sure everybody gets a meaningful vote for President, not just swing state voters.
Note that if you don't include a runoff election you become more like Mexico and less like Brazil or France. A runoff election would be needed.

My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

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House Dems move to eliminate Electoral College, limit presidential pardon power - by StroudCrowd1 - 01-04-2019, 01:21 PM

RE: House Dems move to eliminate Electoral College, limit presidential pardon power - by mikesez - 01-04-2019, 01:39 PM

RE: House Dems move to eliminate Electoral College, limit presidential pardon power - by StroudCrowd1 - 01-04-2019, 01:49 PM

RE: House Dems move to eliminate Electoral College, limit presidential pardon power - by mikesez - 01-04-2019, 02:44 PM

RE: House Dems move to eliminate Electoral College, limit presidential pardon power - by TrivialPursuit - 01-04-2019, 01:50 PM

RE: House Dems move to eliminate Electoral College, limit presidential pardon power - by StroudCrowd1 - 01-04-2019, 01:56 PM

RE: House Dems move to eliminate Electoral College, limit presidential pardon power - by EricC85 - 01-04-2019, 02:20 PM

RE: House Dems move to eliminate Electoral College, limit presidential pardon power - by mikesez - 01-04-2019, 02:52 PM

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RE: House Dems move to eliminate Electoral College, limit presidential pardon power - by mikesez - 01-04-2019, 06:15 PM

RE: House Dems move to eliminate Electoral College, limit presidential pardon power - by EricC85 - 01-05-2019, 12:44 AM

RE: House Dems move to eliminate Electoral College, limit presidential pardon power - by mikesez - 01-05-2019, 09:22 AM

RE: House Dems move to eliminate Electoral College, limit presidential pardon power - by B2hibry - 01-04-2019, 02:39 PM

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