(01-04-2019, 02:52 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(01-04-2019, 02:20 PM)EricC85 Wrote: Talk about trying to rewrite the Constitution.

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mikesez
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Both sound like good ideas to me.
The idea that a President might pardon himself makes us prone to turning into a dictatorship, putting one man too far above the law.
Eliminating the electoral college and going with a national popular vote is also an improvement, making sure everybody gets a meaningful vote for President, not just swing state voters.  
Note that if you don't include a runoff election you become more like Mexico and less like Brazil or France. A runoff election would be needed.

That's called a democracy and is fundamentally flawed. Our system is a constitutional republic specifically designed to fight against a democracy. In a democracy it's simply mob rule, that's great when your in the majority but come see me when your a minority and tell me you still thinks it's a good idea.

Those are the pat answers that a typical southern civics teacher might have fed his students in the last few decades.  Unfortunately they are wrong. 
The senate and the judges were designed to be the guards against mob rule. 
The electoral college was designed originally (both before and after amendment 12) only to send three nominees to the House without provoking passions among the people at large about who those nominees should be.  It has not worked as designed.  It turned out to be easier than the founders thought to mount a national campaign and win the thing outright, especially with states giving all of their votes to the statewide plurality winner.  Part of the design of the electoral college was also to punt on the question of voting rights - if you have a national popular vote, there has to be a uniform rule about who has the right to vote.
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Ooooooo, now we get regional arrogance as well; Mikey never fails to push the boundaries. And the Senate was supposed to represent the State governments to provide another bulwark against mob rule, but the 17th has been used, again, to reduce the power and rights of those governments as would ending the EC. But us ol' dumb Suthunas is too blockheaded to know what's best fo' us.

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