(01-05-2019, 12:44 AM)EricC85 Wrote:

(01-04-2019, 02:52 PM)mikesez Wrote: That's called a democracy and is fundamentally flawed. Our system is a constitutional republic specifically designed to fight against a democracy. In a democracy it's simply mob rule, that's great when your in the majority but come see me when your a minority and tell me you still thinks it's a good idea.

Those are the pat answers that a typical southern civics teacher might have fed his students in the last few decades.  Unfortunately they are wrong. 
The senate and the judges were designed to be the guards against mob rule. 
The electoral college was designed originally (both before and after amendment 12) only to send three nominees to the House without provoking passions among the people at large about who those nominees should be.  It has not worked as designed.  It turned out to be easier than the founders thought to mount a national campaign and win the thing outright, especially with states giving all of their votes to the statewide plurality winner.  Part of the design of the electoral college was also to punt on the question of voting rights - if you have a national popular vote, there has to be a uniform rule about who has the right to vote.

You need to study civics man, the Senate which is elected by popular vote thanks to the 17th amendment can't possibly be an example of controlling mob rule. The judicial branch is absolutely not designed to monitoir, interfer, or determine executive elections that's no where in the frame work of the Constitution. 

How can you say we where not designed as a republic it's all over founding documents. Cracks me up one election doesn't go the lefts way and now we should revisit the framework laid out for us to make sure it's fair. You can't make this up
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I didn't say "we were not designed as a Republic."
I agree it's all over the founding documents, which I have read. I've read federalist 68 and other explanations of the system.  The electoral college has never worked as Hamilton described in these documents.
The electoral college was designed so that a Presidential Candidate only had to make himself known to a few elites. Votes were supposed to be split many ways, and then the House would select among three candidates. We quickly formed national level parties that held national level conventions specifically to avoid splitting votes and specifically to thwart the system Hamilton designed.  So the "mob rule" aspect is there, already.

The Senate is still a place where California gets two votes and Alaska also gets two votes.  If there was a proposed federal law that only city people wanted, the Senate would stop it.  And the Senate is coequal with regard to appointing judges.  Judges strike down laws where a majority infringes the rights of a minority.

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