(01-11-2019, 10:56 PM)Last42min Wrote: Is that where you are going to try to win the debate? That the phrase wasn't used by the founders? If I'm not mistaken, the phrase was popularized by Tocqueville, but that's irrelevant. The phrase represents the idea, dude. Hamilton, Jefferson, and Madison all spoke of the potential problem. So did Burke, Locke and Mill. That's because people who are well read in philosophy and history knew of the problem in Greek government that was not as prevalent in the Roman republic. Yes, demagoguery was a concern, but also rule by the majority. Stop playing dumb.

It's a minor point.
The major point is that nothing about the electoral college as it exists today protects a minority from a majority.  Nothing about a national popular vote would, either, true. But the two systems are equal in this regard.  If we're going to consider the pros and cons of switching, we should look that things that are different, right?

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