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(This post was last modified: 02-21-2019, 02:25 PM by mikesez.)

(02-21-2019, 02:06 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: Bernie is going to buy himself a fourth house and then throw his endorsement behind someone else.

Dude is a sell-out. I don't agree with a darn thing he says, but you'd think he'd have the conviction to not cower to Clinton (and the DNC).

(02-21-2019, 01:33 PM)mikesez Wrote: I don't wonder in this case.   Encouraging empathy towards dark skinned people is not going to be a popular move in Northeastern FL.  I said it because it is right, not to make you feel good.

Do you think what you said is encouraging empathy towards dark-skinned people?

Why do you leftists always think conservatives care about race as much as you do?

I am asking you to imagine growing up as Kamala Harris.  It's a basic thing you can do to build empathy. There are a lot of ways that it may become difficult to imagine yourself as someone else.  Race and national origin are probably the two hardest besides gender.  But everyone should try.  


Why do you throw out one of the two L-words as soon as someone says something you find unpleasant?

(02-21-2019, 02:12 PM)homebiscuit Wrote:
(02-21-2019, 02:05 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: So you think the electoral map will elect a socialist in 2 years? I just can't see that.

Bernie and the dems know he will never be elected. They’ll come to an agreement later for his endorsement of the eventual front runner in order to funnel his support and money. He’ll either get a VP nod (doubtful) or some lucrative Clinton-seque under-the-table money deal.

(02-21-2019, 02:06 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: Bernie is going to buy himself a fourth house and then throw his endorsement behind someone else.

Dude is a sell-out. I don't agree with a darn thing he says, but you'd think he'd have the conviction to not cower to Clinton (and the DNC).


Do you think what you said is encouraging empathy towards dark-skinned people?

Why do you leftists always think conservatives care about race as much as you do?

He’s grasping at an opportunity to throw the race card.

You're grasping at a chance to disregard my argument.  Unless you deny race exists, you have to accept that it will come up in conversations and not get offended when it does.  Part of being an adult.
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(02-21-2019, 02:23 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(02-21-2019, 02:06 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: Bernie is going to buy himself a fourth house and then throw his endorsement behind someone else.

Dude is a sell-out. I don't agree with a darn thing he says, but you'd think he'd have the conviction to not cower to Clinton (and the DNC).


Do you think what you said is encouraging empathy towards dark-skinned people?

Why do you leftists always think conservatives care about race as much as you do?

I am asking you to imagine growing up as Kamala Harris.  It's a basic thing you can do to build empathy. There are a lot of ways that it may become difficult to imagine yourself as someone else.  Race and national origin are probably the two hardest besides gender.  But everyone should try.  


Why do you throw out one of the two L-words as soon as someone says something you find unpleasant?

(02-21-2019, 02:12 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: Bernie and the dems know he will never be elected. They’ll come to an agreement later for his endorsement of the eventual front runner in order to funnel his support and money. He’ll either get a VP nod (doubtful) or some lucrative Clinton-seque under-the-table money deal.


He’s grasping at an opportunity to throw the race card.

You're grasping at a chance to disregard my argument.  Unless you deny race exists, you have to accept that it will come up in conversations and not get offended when it does.  Part of being an adult.

Yes, daddy.

In any case, Harris is a phony who was called out by her own father. No amount of needless racial equivocation can change that.
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(02-21-2019, 02:30 PM)homebiscuit Wrote:
(02-21-2019, 02:23 PM)mikesez Wrote: I am asking you to imagine growing up as Kamala Harris.  It's a basic thing you can do to build empathy. There are a lot of ways that it may become difficult to imagine yourself as someone else.  Race and national origin are probably the two hardest besides gender.  But everyone should try.  


Why do you throw out one of the two L-words as soon as someone says something you find unpleasant?


You're grasping at a chance to disregard my argument.  Unless you deny race exists, you have to accept that it will come up in conversations and not get offended when it does.  Part of being an adult.

Yes, daddy.

In any case, Harris is a phony who was called out by her own father. No amount of needless racial equivocation can change that.

They obviously have a difficult relationship. Many people do.
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(02-21-2019, 02:32 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(02-21-2019, 02:30 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: Yes, daddy.

In any case, Harris is a phony who was called out by her own father. No amount of needless racial equivocation can change that.

They obviously have a difficult relationship. Many people do.

Yes, yes. That must be the reason why she lied and misrepresented herself. Good catch.
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(02-21-2019, 02:05 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:
(02-21-2019, 01:51 PM)TJBender Wrote: I don't think he wants to be remembered as the guy who handed Trump a second term, and I don't think the Democratic Party would stifle him this time around. He would have beaten Trump in 2016, and I think he stands a good chance of beating him in 2020, especially if Trump continues acting like a spoiled child when the House doesn't bend to his agenda.

So you think the electoral map will elect a socialist in 2 years? I just can't see that.

I don't really anticipate any of the states that went for Clinton in 2016 shifting over to Trump in 2020. I do expect that some of those light blue states in the upper Midwest that went Trump in 2016 will be prime targets for Sanders to retake. Trump won them because he canvassed them while Clinton took them for granted. I think we'll see a lot of the Democratic nominee attacking those states hard, probably reminding everyone about how "tax reform" under Trump has led to bigger checks written to the government and smaller refunds back to them.
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(02-21-2019, 03:40 PM)TJBender Wrote:
(02-21-2019, 02:05 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: So you think the electoral map will elect a socialist in 2 years? I just can't see that.

I don't really anticipate any of the states that went for Clinton in 2016 shifting over to Trump in 2020. I do expect that some of those light blue states in the upper Midwest that went Trump in 2016 will be prime targets for Sanders to retake. Trump won them because he canvassed them while Clinton took them for granted. I think we'll see a lot of the Democratic nominee attacking those states hard, probably reminding everyone about how "tax reform" under Trump has led to bigger checks written to the government and smaller refunds back to them.

Well, hopefully the republicans remind everyone that your larger paychecks led to the same tax return you got last year. Peoples lack of understanding of the most simple mathematical concepts is frightening.
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(02-21-2019, 03:40 PM)TJBender Wrote:
(02-21-2019, 02:05 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: So you think the electoral map will elect a socialist in 2 years? I just can't see that.

I don't really anticipate any of the states that went for Clinton in 2016 shifting over to Trump in 2020. I do expect that some of those light blue states in the upper Midwest that went Trump in 2016 will be prime targets for Sanders to retake. Trump won them because he canvassed them while Clinton took them for granted. I think we'll see a lot of the Democratic nominee attacking those states hard, probably reminding everyone about how "tax reform" under Trump has led to bigger checks written to the government and smaller refunds back to them.

It saddens me to say this but that tactic will work on some people as they walk home with more $ in their paycheck each week.
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(02-21-2019, 03:44 PM)copycat Wrote:
(02-21-2019, 03:40 PM)TJBender Wrote: I don't really anticipate any of the states that went for Clinton in 2016 shifting over to Trump in 2020. I do expect that some of those light blue states in the upper Midwest that went Trump in 2016 will be prime targets for Sanders to retake. Trump won them because he canvassed them while Clinton took them for granted. I think we'll see a lot of the Democratic nominee attacking those states hard, probably reminding everyone about how "tax reform" under Trump has led to bigger checks written to the government and smaller refunds back to them.

It saddens me to say this but that tactic will work on some people as they walk home with more $ in their paycheck each week.

And then there are those of us who got a smaller paycheck and a bigger check due to Uncle Sam without any change in their family AGI.
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(02-21-2019, 03:46 PM)TJBender Wrote:
(02-21-2019, 03:44 PM)copycat Wrote: It saddens me to say this but that tactic will work on some people as they walk home with more $ in their paycheck each week.

And then there are those of us who got a smaller paycheck and a bigger check due to Uncle Sam without any change in their family AGI.


I'm no accountant but you must be doing something wrong.   Huh
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(02-21-2019, 03:58 PM)copycat Wrote:
(02-21-2019, 03:46 PM)TJBender Wrote: And then there are those of us who got a smaller paycheck and a bigger check due to Uncle Sam without any change in their family AGI.


I'm no accountant but you must be doing something wrong.   Huh

I didn't change anything.
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(02-21-2019, 04:04 PM)TJBender Wrote:
(02-21-2019, 03:58 PM)copycat Wrote: I'm no accountant but you must be doing something wrong.   Huh

I didn't change anything.

I believe you, I just don't understand.
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(02-21-2019, 02:23 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(02-21-2019, 02:06 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: Bernie is going to buy himself a fourth house and then throw his endorsement behind someone else.

Dude is a sell-out. I don't agree with a darn thing he says, but you'd think he'd have the conviction to not cower to Clinton (and the DNC).


Do you think what you said is encouraging empathy towards dark-skinned people?

Why do you leftists always think conservatives care about race as much as you do?

I am asking you to imagine growing up as Kamala Harris.  It's a basic thing you can do to build empathy. There are a lot of ways that it may become difficult to imagine yourself as someone else.  Race and national origin are probably the two hardest besides gender.  But everyone should try.  


Why do you throw out one of the two L-words as soon as someone says something you find unpleasant?

(02-21-2019, 02:12 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: Bernie and the dems know he will never be elected. They’ll come to an agreement later for his endorsement of the eventual front runner in order to funnel his support and money. He’ll either get a VP nod (doubtful) or some lucrative Clinton-seque under-the-table money deal.


He’s grasping at an opportunity to throw the race card.

You're grasping at a chance to disregard my argument.  Unless you deny race exists, you have to accept that it will come up in conversations and not get offended when it does.  Part of being an adult.

I use it a lot with you because you pretend you're a republican and/or conservative.   

Why must someone be a particular race or gender to understand what they supposedly go through? And why too is it that whites are the only ones that don't understand it? Identity politics is the go-to leftist argument. It's the weakest way to defend one's stance.
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(02-21-2019, 01:33 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(02-21-2019, 12:06 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: And you wonder why your reputation score is so low.

I don't wonder in this case.   Encouraging empathy towards dark skinned people is not going to be a popular move in Northeastern FL.  I said it because it is right, not to make you feel good.

What a dirtbag statement.

(02-21-2019, 04:13 PM)copycat Wrote:
(02-21-2019, 04:04 PM)TJBender Wrote: I didn't change anything.

I believe you, I just don't understand.

My tax burden dropped by about 4% total. I got about 8% less withholding taken out each check and my refund was 3% lower than last year with no modifications. I can't really say its apples to apples though because I also got a 17% increase after the withholding change last Spring, so...thanks Trump.
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Kamala Harris had an unsavory relationship with a certain Brown, Willie which will ultimately doom any White House bid.
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More Democrat hypocrisy!! The party of tolerance right?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-e...SKCN1QN2F9
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(03-06-2019, 04:17 PM)B2hibry Wrote: More Democrat hypocrisy!! The party of tolerance right?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-e...SKCN1QN2F9

Meh. On the one hand, what do they have to lose by putting Democrats up against each other on Fox, with no Republican candidates around to be favored? If anything, that'd be great for a candidate like Tulsi Gabbard, who has a strong conservative streak in her.

On the other, what happens if the Fox News moderator (surely Tucker Carlson or Laura Ingraham) sits there using the debate as an opportunity to ask questions that are thinly veiled attacks on the candidates and reminders of why Republican policies are so great?

At the end of the day, I don't care. Debates are choreographed, rigged popularity contests at this point.
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(03-06-2019, 04:17 PM)B2hibry Wrote: More Democrat hypocrisy!! The party of tolerance right?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-e...SKCN1QN2F9

Clearly a ploy to get people to watch their networks to see the trainwreck. They routinely get smoked by Fox in the ratings, so they have to do something.
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(03-06-2019, 05:08 PM)TJBender Wrote:
(03-06-2019, 04:17 PM)B2hibry Wrote: More Democrat hypocrisy!! The party of tolerance right?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-e...SKCN1QN2F9

Meh. On the one hand, what do they have to lose by putting Democrats up against each other on Fox, with no Republican candidates around to be favored? If anything, that'd be great for a candidate like Tulsi Gabbard, who has a strong conservative streak in her.

On the other, what happens if the Fox News moderator (surely Tucker Carlson or Laura Ingraham) sits there using the debate as an opportunity to ask questions that are thinly veiled attacks on the candidates and reminders of why Republican policies are so great?

At the end of the day, I don't care. Debates are choreographed, rigged popularity contests at this point.

I'm with you, it doesn't really matter to me which network hosts these debates. However, if Fox hosted one, it would be Bret Baier or Chris Wallace doing the moderating.
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(02-21-2019, 02:30 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: Yes, daddy.

In any case, Harris is a phony who was called out by her own father. No amount of needless racial equivocation can change that.

The always classy Meghan Markle says hi.
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(03-06-2019, 07:34 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote:
(02-21-2019, 02:30 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: Yes, daddy.

In any case, Harris is a phony who was called out by her own father. No amount of needless racial equivocation can change that.

The always classy Meghan Markle says hi.
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Please explain the reasoning with the association of the two.
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