(03-06-2019, 09:49 AM)SeldomRite Wrote:

(03-06-2019, 09:21 AM)JackCity Wrote: Need is already factored into every BAP pick.

That's not an argument against or about pure BAP. I know every GM lies and says they're taking BAP when what they're really doing is taking need, but that says nothing about actual BAP. Taking BAP is about taking Mahomes instead of fournette even though you think Bortles is good enough.

Really the biggest problem with true BAP is that it seems most NFL people aren't actually capable of evaluating players better than a well educated fan can. Need is easy to evaluate, actual NFL projection is hard, so they see a bunch of guys and they can't really tell who's better, so they instead take a guy they know they have a positional need for.

It means the argument between need vs BAP is pointless. They are both factored into every single pick to various degrees.   

If you were taking Mahomes in that scenario they would have also thought they had a big need to improve on the QB position, so again, need and BAP go into the pick. They wouldn't be drafting him in a vacuum.  

Just go through all of our picks 

Joeckel - Needed a tackle and one of the best players available 
Bortles - needed a Qb and they deemed him on of the best available 
Fowler - needed a pass rusher and one of the top players available 
Ramsey- needed a corner and deemed him one of the best available 
Fournette - needed a RB and wrongly deemed him to be A) One of the best players available B) At a position worth taking and C) Wrongly evaluated Bortles as being good

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