(03-20-2019, 10:22 AM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: It works as intended and does not need to be changed.  You’re going to find injured parties in any system that is designed no matter how fair you attempt to make it.  All things considered, it is the fairest system and due to the requirements to change it, it will likely only be changed if some sort of second civil war takes place. If anything needs to be changed it’s that Senators should be appointed by a state’s governor instead of directly elected by the people like they were originally.

Also, if big liberal strongholds were to somehow force a change to the electoral college system, I think that would be the catalyst for much bigger problems for this union of states staying together than any specific policy difference.

1) it does not work as intended; the intent is described in Federalist 68, and that's not how it works.  Also James Madison said specifically that it was not working as designed even after the 12th amendment.

2) you're right that it's not possible to create a system that everyone will always think is fair.  I didn't say that was my goal.  My stated goal was to consider the founders intent and try to get closer to that.

3) the national popular vote Interstate Compact is close to being enacted.  Other changes to the system might require amending the Constitution, but, even though this is unlikely, it can still be discussed. Either change would require the cooperation of a variety of states, including red States. It's implausible that liberals alone would be able to do it.

4) senators were never appointed by governors until after the 17th amendment.  The original system called for them to be appointed by state legislatures. The state legislatures themselves voted to end this because they didn't like the results.

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