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Electoral college

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(This post was last modified: 03-20-2019, 01:03 PM by mikesez.)

(03-20-2019, 12:19 PM)B2hibry Wrote:
(03-20-2019, 09:53 AM)mikesez Wrote: The electoral college doesn't work as designed and could be improved.  It was supposed to discourage demagogues but Americans alive today have only ever had demagogues as their President. Just switching to a popular vote won't fix that, but it will make elections more expensive, and less secure against hacking and rigging.
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I think we should focus on the process holistically:

1) the nominating process must be considered as well as the final selection.

2) if a national popular vote total is used, every state must have the exact same voter qualifications.  Maintaining such standards probably requires a central, federal authority for voter registration and counting votes - this office would instantly be the target for hackers and ballot box stuffers from around the world.

3) some indirect or "surprising" mechanism needs to be present to counteract demagogues.
I'm not sure you've actually read Federalist 68 or any of the anti-Federalist papers like 72 or lesser known Cato. I say this because you have a pretty rough interpretation to what was actually written. In any case, the process works exactly as intended. They even went so far as to fix flaws along the way with appropriate amendments. I will agree that improvement could take place but I think we would disagree as to why.

Like previously mentioned, the process works as designed...

Please cite a quote from a Federalist paper that shows a specific intent for the system, and then cite a recent election cycle where this intent was met.
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Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-20-2019, 09:53 AM
RE: Electoral college - by StroudCrowd1 - 03-20-2019, 10:07 AM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-20-2019, 10:59 AM
RE: Electoral college - by Jaguarmeister - 03-20-2019, 10:22 AM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-20-2019, 11:05 AM
RE: Electoral college - by B2hibry - 03-20-2019, 12:19 PM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-20-2019, 12:36 PM
RE: Electoral college - by B2hibry - 03-20-2019, 01:41 PM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-20-2019, 03:02 PM
RE: Electoral college - by jj82284 - 03-20-2019, 01:01 PM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-20-2019, 01:03 PM
RE: Electoral college - by flsprtsgod - 03-20-2019, 08:04 PM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-20-2019, 09:56 PM
RE: Electoral college - by flsprtsgod - 03-21-2019, 08:14 AM
RE: Electoral college - by Kane - 03-22-2019, 12:52 PM
RE: Electoral college - by pirkster - 03-20-2019, 10:44 PM
RE: Electoral college - by homebiscuit - 03-21-2019, 06:02 AM
RE: Electoral college - by HandsomeRob86 - 03-21-2019, 06:19 AM
RE: Electoral college - by The Real Marty - 03-21-2019, 06:54 AM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-21-2019, 07:12 AM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-21-2019, 07:23 AM
RE: Electoral college - by The Real Marty - 03-21-2019, 08:06 AM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-21-2019, 09:48 AM
RE: Electoral college - by flsprtsgod - 03-21-2019, 04:00 PM
RE: Electoral college - by homebiscuit - 03-21-2019, 10:35 AM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-21-2019, 11:17 AM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-21-2019, 11:22 AM
RE: Electoral college - by StroudCrowd1 - 03-21-2019, 03:57 PM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-21-2019, 04:19 PM
RE: Electoral college - by StroudCrowd1 - 03-21-2019, 04:21 PM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-21-2019, 04:48 PM
RE: Electoral college - by jj82284 - 03-22-2019, 03:08 AM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-22-2019, 07:12 AM
RE: Electoral college - by jj82284 - 03-22-2019, 09:38 AM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-22-2019, 10:21 AM
RE: Electoral college - by jj82284 - 03-22-2019, 10:43 AM
RE: Electoral college - by flsprtsgod - 03-22-2019, 11:55 AM
RE: Electoral college - by jj82284 - 03-27-2019, 04:34 AM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-27-2019, 09:02 AM
RE: Electoral college - by B2hibry - 03-27-2019, 09:37 AM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-27-2019, 10:32 AM
RE: Electoral college - by jj82284 - 03-27-2019, 11:28 AM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-27-2019, 11:36 AM
RE: Electoral college - by StroudCrowd1 - 03-27-2019, 11:39 AM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-27-2019, 11:55 AM
RE: Electoral college - by StroudCrowd1 - 03-27-2019, 11:57 AM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-27-2019, 12:15 PM
RE: Electoral college - by StroudCrowd1 - 03-27-2019, 12:21 PM
RE: Electoral college - by TJBender - 03-27-2019, 02:02 PM
RE: Electoral college - by B2hibry - 03-27-2019, 01:10 PM
RE: Electoral college - by jj82284 - 03-27-2019, 09:49 AM
RE: Electoral college - by Byron LeftTown - 03-22-2019, 10:30 AM
RE: Electoral college - by JagNGeorgia - 03-22-2019, 01:33 PM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-22-2019, 02:10 PM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-22-2019, 02:18 PM
RE: Electoral college - by flsprtsgod - 03-22-2019, 02:40 PM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-22-2019, 03:40 PM
RE: Electoral college - by flsprtsgod - 03-22-2019, 09:09 PM
RE: Electoral college - by jj82284 - 03-22-2019, 06:10 PM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-22-2019, 06:20 PM
RE: Electoral college - by jj82284 - 03-22-2019, 06:34 PM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-22-2019, 06:43 PM
RE: Electoral college - by jj82284 - 03-22-2019, 07:50 PM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-22-2019, 09:35 PM
RE: Electoral college - by jj82284 - 03-23-2019, 08:12 AM
RE: Electoral college - by Ronster - 03-23-2019, 11:18 AM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-23-2019, 12:21 PM
RE: Electoral college - by Ronster - 03-26-2019, 12:28 PM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-26-2019, 12:41 PM
RE: Electoral college - by StroudCrowd1 - 03-26-2019, 12:56 PM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-26-2019, 01:21 PM
RE: Electoral college - by flsprtsgod - 03-26-2019, 03:45 PM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-26-2019, 04:17 PM
RE: Electoral college - by Kane - 03-26-2019, 05:01 PM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-26-2019, 05:36 PM
RE: Electoral college - by StroudCrowd1 - 03-26-2019, 05:37 PM
RE: Electoral college - by flsprtsgod - 03-26-2019, 05:03 PM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-26-2019, 05:37 PM
RE: Electoral college - by StroudCrowd1 - 03-26-2019, 05:40 PM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-26-2019, 06:25 PM
RE: Electoral college - by flsprtsgod - 03-26-2019, 09:53 PM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-26-2019, 10:28 PM
RE: Electoral college - by flsprtsgod - 03-26-2019, 10:53 PM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-26-2019, 11:39 PM
RE: Electoral college - by TJBender - 03-27-2019, 12:34 AM
RE: Electoral college - by jagibelieve - 03-26-2019, 04:11 PM
RE: Electoral college - by StroudCrowd1 - 03-26-2019, 12:35 PM
RE: Electoral college - by Lucky2Last - 03-26-2019, 02:05 PM
RE: Electoral college - by jj82284 - 03-27-2019, 04:28 AM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-27-2019, 06:48 AM
RE: Electoral college - by Ronster - 03-27-2019, 12:08 PM
RE: Electoral college - by jj82284 - 03-27-2019, 12:09 PM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-27-2019, 12:23 PM
RE: Electoral college - by jj82284 - 03-27-2019, 12:47 PM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-27-2019, 04:15 PM
RE: Electoral college - by Ronster - 03-28-2019, 04:45 PM
RE: Electoral college - by Cleatwood - 03-28-2019, 04:51 PM
RE: Electoral college - by mikesez - 03-28-2019, 06:53 PM
RE: Electoral college - by flsprtsgod - 03-28-2019, 11:22 PM
RE: Electoral college - by jj82284 - 03-27-2019, 04:23 PM



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