(03-26-2019, 05:01 PM)Kane Wrote:

(03-26-2019, 04:17 PM)mikesez Wrote: We are talking about 17% of the US population or 17% of all voters nationally.
No one is talking about 17% of NYC's population. 
Are you having trouble with math or are you just trying to detail the thread?

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No. 83% of Americans live outside of the 5 largest cities in America.  Total votes from "not top 5" voters will be 4 to 6 times more than total votes from voters in the top 5 cities.

But what about the illegals?

Seriously though. You want a pure popular vote to determine all elections or just the POTUS?
Either way, we need voter ID laws and we need to make sure every vote counted is legit.

I'd like a popular vote for all laws to be passed at state and federal levels.



But ya know... want in one hand and [BLEEP] in the other and see what fills up faster

How many illegal immigrants voting do you think there are?! You know that lots of illegal immigrants live outside of the top 5 cities right? A lot of them work in agriculture. 

I agree that we would need a single federal standard and enforcement of voter ID laws if we are going to do any kind of national popular vote for anyting.

But I don't think we need to do a national popular vote for anything. the difficulty of establishing a federal standard for voting, and establishing a federal authority to count votes, and the likelihood that such a federal authority would lose trust down the road, are all good reasons to not do a national popular vote.

But I do think the argument that, "if we change anything at all about the electoral college suddenly all the power will go to a few large cities" is dumb, and wrong.

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