(04-18-2019, 03:17 PM)B2hibry Wrote:

(04-18-2019, 03:08 PM)TJBender Wrote: The thing that really hangs for me is that Trump gave several orders that would have obstructed justice had they been carried out. To draw a parallel to that, if I offer a cop posing as a lady of the night $20 to shiver me timber, I've solicited prostitution whether she goes through with it or not. I'm still going to be cited and/or arrested for solicitation. If Trump was giving out orders that he knew would disrupt the investigation, then that's close enough to obstruction to merit further inquiry. Again, huge if, I haven't read the report yet. That's just the bit I keep seeing come up that really bothers me. A President attempting to interfere in an investigation focused on him is something that has to be investigated fully, especially if a special counsel's report states that the only reason justice wasn't obstructed is that no one agreed to follow through with it.

I get what you are saying but now you enter an interpretation issue and I blame Mueller for that. Was there intent? Did an action occur? Did the action obstruct a process? It becomes dangerous from a crime perspective. In any case, the bread crumb report was expected and planned for by the Dems. This will just carry on until elections and still nothing will come of it.

-Arrest that guy because he looks like a rapist and talks like a rapist.
-Arrest that dude because he was going to drive drunk last night but didn't actually.

This is why I need to find time to sit down and read the thing, at least the sections that both sides have latched onto. In my mind, telling someone to take an action that would obstruct an investigation is the same as obstructing justice, whether that person carries out your request or not. Is that really what the report says, and if so, what corroboration is there for it? A thinly-veiled suggestion that the President directed others to obstruct justice in an investigation of himself is a heavy hammer to drop without corroboration from multiple people who saw it happen.

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