(04-23-2019, 10:54 AM)mikesez Wrote:

(04-23-2019, 08:24 AM)B2hibry Wrote: I reject any expansion of government. The fact of the matter is there is no efficient or economic way for the government to provide health care to their citizens, nor should they have to. Even if they implement an expensive "for-all" system, it will eventually erode to have to include private subsidy insurance. At that point, you've figured out that you need to crawl back to the private sector but you've already done irreversible damage. Now you will need the government to influx another stream of cash to bring the private sector back up from the dumps. One needs to look no further than every example on this planet as well as our own recent ObamaCare failure to see the writing. Remove unnecessary barriers to entry and let healthcare naturally adjust to fair market levels. This is not something and will never be something that the government can influence to benefit all.

I suggest you read the second of the two articles.
Many countries have a blend of public and private care and public and private insurance. 
The natural free market position of health Care is that most people don't get health care.  People can't price shop when they fear imminent death or maiming.
You're inventing a narrative where people shift everything completely to the public sector and then come "crawling back" to the private sector.  That hasn't been the sequence of events or the outcome at any point in history in any place in the world.

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(04-23-2019, 07:47 AM)Ronster Wrote: I  don’t trust the government to run everyone’s health care. You need only look at the V.A to see what is in store for all of us. Now I know the V.A works well in some areas for some people, but overall it is inefficient and ineffective.

I don't "trust them to run everyone's health care" either, but I think it's necessary for the government to provide a baseline of coverage for everyone, that the private sector can then improve upon.

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(04-23-2019, 08:30 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Every plan claims to regulate prices, therefore every plan will collapse.

Expanding Medicare merely creates adverse selection in the private market.

Your first sentence is refuted in the second article I posted.
Your second sentence doesn't make sense to me.

Why on earth should government provide any coverage? It's not the job of the government to "provide" anything like this, it's their job to legislate and govern. Do you see the cluster Washington is currently in and has been for decades? You really want those folks overseeing healthcare for the people of this country? I don't care that it works in other countries. This country was not built for socialism or any socialist programs and is one reason the programs will never work as designed (and never have) and socialism will never work for this country.

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