(04-24-2019, 02:45 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(04-24-2019, 12:34 PM)B2hibry Wrote: What data are you looking for? It is well known that with public healthcare, wait times go up. Limited specialists and a large patient pool lead to huge wait times to see a general practitioner, diagnostic testing, then a referral to see a specialist for consultation, now deciding best treatment plan, and finally the procedure. This is a seperate issue from the continual rising cost not only from the government but out of pocket. Why do we continualyl gripe about how the US spends the most of any country on healthcare but fail to look at the why? The large costs rest at the feet of Medicare and Medicaid which are the largest chunk of federal spending by far, even without trying to expand it to everyone. Not sustainable even now! The fact of the matter is the Americans look at health insurance like car insurance and don't find it necessary until it is. We'll spend hundreds if not thousands on cell phones and data plans but not on a health plan. Anyways, take your pick of whatever other countries program that includes a large percentage of socialized medicine and there has been a study on it with data that you can comb over. Here are a few links to breeze through...

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/...anada-2017

https://www.forbes.com/sites/sallypipes/...b4a03d36b8

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10...6817693599

https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/03/fi...rdest-hit/

https://www.cagw.org/thewastewatcher/med...yrocketing

http://hr.cch.com/hld/696264Voluntaryand...models.pdf

None of those links compares what happens in another country to what happens here. They don't answer the question.

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(04-24-2019, 01:54 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: An apples to apples comparison of two dissimilar things? Lol.

If you really look hard you'll find a fascinating Commonwealth study on the whole thing. You probably won't like what you find there.

You referring to this? 
https://www.commonwealthfund.org/chart/2...ppointment

Canada came out the worst in that study, and they are one of the most socialized.
But the UK is equally socialized, and they came out almost exactly the same as the US.
Clearly something else explains wait times better than the degree of government ownership or control.