(04-28-2019, 12:19 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(04-25-2019, 01:23 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Your thinking is limited to wait times, so you're missing a lot of the broader concepts. I think anyone who wishes to take part in this discussion should first spend an hour reading and digesting this:

https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publica...rom-abroad

then follow that up with this:

https://www.commonwealthfund.org/blog/20...-countries

and this:

https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/char...item-start

then move on to the numerous reports of care rationing and provider shortages faced by every care system.

But hey, what do I know?

Yes we have a general shortage of doctors in Canada and in the United States.
On the other hand Germany and the Netherlands have almost twice as many doctors per person as us.
In the United States you can generally get seen if you're a citizen over the age of 65 or if you have a middle-class job. Even so there are forms of rationing for expensive stuff and insurance companies will say no. Everyone else faces a long to nearly infinite wait time. 
In Canada everyone can get seen but everyone has to wait a couple of months.
Germany and the Netherlands are the best of both worlds, since they don't have a doctor shortage to cope with everyone can get seen in a timely fashion.