(04-25-2019, 07:22 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(04-25-2019, 05:35 PM)jj82284 Wrote: 2 pages in.  Still no explanation from the alarmist wing why increase in surface temp usually happens prior to co2.

I strongly doubt that we have ways to measure past surface temperatures and past CO2 levels with enough precision to conclusively say that the one happened a few years before the other, when both events were tens or hundreds of thousands of years in the past.

And even if we did have that data, we would have no way to know if there had been variations in solar output during those years.

When you store atmospheric gas in a clear bottle that's left out in the sun, and add more CO2 to the mixture, the mixture has a higher equilibrium temperature than it did before the co2 was added.

Of course the minerals on the Earth's surface, the oceans, the clouds, and all the different forms of plant and algae life that can emerge all play a role in what actually happens when CO2 is increased. 

but the experiment we can do with a bottle clearly teaches us that an increase in temperature is what we should expect.