(06-19-2019, 04:07 PM)B2hibry Wrote:

(06-19-2019, 11:27 AM)mikesez Wrote: It is a factor.
It's one thing to defensively prop up a government that rules with the consent of the governed (Latvia, for instance, or South Korea).
It's another to give weapons and refueling sorties to support a government that represses its own people, and does not have their consent (Saudi Arabia), in its efforts to extend it hegemony and the repression that goes along with it to a neighboring country (Yemen).

Are you just responding to be conflictual, or are you going to make a point eventually? Are you suggesting regime change for all countries not like the United States? From my point of view, you are just reinforcing that regardless of government or demographics, the US is invited and paid to stabilize a region or offer protection from the one stirring the pot. In this situation, it's Iran's radical religious leadership.

You may want to research the Saudi - Yemen relationship and how they got to where it is now. Your comments aren't in line with the reality of the situation.

Anyways, how about Iran attacking them tankers? Ya'll still believing the tail is wagging the dog or coming back to reality?

You're an unstable thinker.
I say that we should not do the bidding of the Saudis,  as the Saudis are not a good government.
You question if I want regime change, not just for the Saudis, but every country that's not exactly like us. I don't know where you got that from.
Just because I criticize a government, does not mean that I want to see my government violently end that other government.

Before 1979, we cooperated with both Iran and Saudi, even though both were terrible, and our cooperation allowed both governments to be more terrible than they would have been otherwise.

After 1979, the Iranians violently shook us off, and became a different kind of terrible.

Now, instead of simply doing business with the Saudis, we came to view them more and more as allies, even though they never stopped being terrible.

I am only advocating leaving the whole Persian gulf region alone to fight its own battles.

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