(06-19-2019, 07:05 PM)B2hibry Wrote:

(06-19-2019, 06:15 PM)mikesez Wrote: You're an unstable thinker.
I say that we should not do the bidding of the Saudis,  as the Saudis are not a good government.
You question if I want regime change, not just for the Saudis, but every country that's not exactly like us. I don't know where you got that from.
Just because I criticize a government, does not mean that I want to see my government violently end that other government.

Before 1979, we cooperated with both Iran and Saudi, even though both were terrible, and our cooperation allowed both governments to be more terrible than they would have been otherwise.

After 1979, the Iranians violently shook us off, and became a different kind of terrible.

Now, instead of simply doing business with the Saudis, we came to view them more and more as allies, even though they never stopped being terrible.

I am only advocating leaving the whole Persian gulf region alone to fight its own battles.

I'm only providing input based on what you type. If it comes off as unstable, it is because you criticize...something. Then you fail to make a point.

You could have just typed your last sentence as everything else is opinionated inaccuracies.

So, you advocate for isolationism? Yeah, having no foreign policy and retreating into a bubble works well. Some might say the topic of this thread was exacerbated by a lack of M.E. foreign policy from the last administration.

Again with the instability.
No, I don't advocate for isolationism.
The US must be involved in world affairs. 
However, we can take a step back in this particular region at this particular time.
This is one of the few parts of the world where a good civil War will improve the average person's chance of having a meaningful and positive influence on how he is governed.
We should stop propping up the dictators and see what happens.
The US should intervene only to prevent massacres, capture specific high-value fugitives, or stop genocides, when possible.
If you ignore his heavy use of assassin drones, Obama eventually got this policy right. But he probably did it by accident.

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