(07-11-2019, 07:37 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:

(07-10-2019, 09:16 PM)mikesez Wrote: That's like saying all sex is rape.
It's just dumb.

I do not consent to any taxation. Does that matter? No, therefore, all taxation is theft.

I wanna get laid and the wife says ok. Does that matter? Yes, therefore all sex is not rape.

Either way somebody is getting [BLEEP], but maybe you can spot the difference that makes your statement ridiculous.

The people sent to represent you consented to the taxation. 
Decisions about your body are yours personally to make.
Decisions about roads and bridges and armies have to be consented to as a group.

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(07-11-2019, 01:20 AM)TJBender Wrote:

(07-10-2019, 07:47 PM)mikesez Wrote: Everyone gets upset about thieves.
Maybe you get more upset than the average person.
Maybe you missed your calling to be a security guard?

Seriously though, there's a huge difference in attitude between taking something that's not yours, versus demanding that the government provide that thing for free or reduced cost to everyone.
One attitude says that you are special and you get to break the rules, and the other says that we should all get together and change the rules but still treat everybody the same. You can call it naive but it's not thievery.

Actually, it's called socialism, and it is not a stable firm of government.

True enough.
I'm not defending welfare or socialism.
I'm just saying it's box-of-rocks dumb to call either "theft".
If everything is theft, the word loses its meaning.

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