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El Paso Mass Shooting

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(This post was last modified: 08-05-2019, 07:17 PM by Jags.)

(08-05-2019, 05:51 PM)jagibelieve Wrote:
(08-05-2019, 04:37 PM)Kane Wrote: Another shooting another laundry list of bad excuses...

Video games? Really?
Are we going to blame Eminem and Marilyn Manson next?
Maybe it's all the legal pot making people go all Reefer Madness?

Two main issues here.
Mental health.
Proper enforcement of current laws and restrictions.

These are what needs to be addressed. Firstly, by the social/family aspect... ya know... try to raise your kids right. Don't screw up their heads with your bs (like identity politics, abusing them, bringing your mental issues on them [get therapy]) Secondly by society (at some point we have to take responsibility, on both sides of the aisle, race arguments, religion arguments, whatever, at stop festering an environment where the answer is almost always violence and division)
Thirdly, people need to be held accountable to selling guns to people they shouldn't, cutting corners on paperwork, and there probably should be stricter regulations to gauge mental health.
And finally, illegal possession, use in crimes, or illegal use otherwise should be punished to the strictest of possibilities.

But sure... blame video games, music, republicans... blm... cops... NRA and guns... whatever.

I think that the problem is the result of multiple things.  I agree with you regarding family and social makeup.  However, there are multiple parts to this problem that should be addressed.

Violent video games certainly do have a place in this.  Certainly it's not the SOLE reason, but it is part of the problem.  Violent video games desensitize children to real violence and killing.  Add to the content the fact that video games have become the "parent(s)" in a lot of children's lives.

One big reason (my opinion) is the rise of social media and the internet.  There is just too much violent and graphic information out there that didn't used to be readily available.  Couple that to the fact that so many people, specifically younger generations are so tied to social media and their cell phones.  That ties into my third point.

Mental health is an issue which should also include drug use.  People, especially younger generations don't interact or socialize "normally".  Their "friends" are the people on social media and their interaction is via Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, etc.  There is no "risk" of rejection other than not getting "followers" or "likes", especially if their "friends" have more "likes" or "followers".

Another reason is the lack of education and training.  You have children getting suspended from school for eating a pop-tart into the shape of a gun or wearing a t-shirt that might depict a fallen soldier's memorial (picture of a rifle, boots and helmet).

Finally, you have our law makers more concerned about "global warming" and the right to choose which restroom you use and letting children "decide" what gender they want to be.

It has nothing to do with firearms and I wish that certain politicians and MSM would quit pushing the "weapons of war" and "assault weapons" narrative.

I agree with you on 99.9% of things from what I’ve noticed.  No offense, but given your background (Career) and other things you’ve posted, and my fathers background, career, and what he says, I kinda look at you as my message board dad.  However, I’m not sure I’m 100% on board with the video game excuse.  I agree with rest of your post though.  

As far as video games as concerned, I grew up playing sports, climbing trees and just doing anything outside.   Sure, I had a Nintendo.  But we only got gifts (which may or may not include video games) on birthday or Christmas.  Sure we made Mario collect some  cions and [BLEEP] but we’d rather be outside.  I’ve was even gifted by a GF   a PS2 for my birthday.  I’m not sure I used it much at at.  I eventually gave it to my eventual step son when he was little.  Having said that and given my occupation, I have a poop ton of off time November through March.  I bought  an Xbox to kill some time thinking I’d play some madden.  My step some (fast forward 7 years) was playing Call of Duty.  I bought madden and COD.  Turns out I sucked at both but rathered killing people than winning a football game.  Fast forward another 7 or so years and I became a fan of any first person shooter game and got pretty decent at it.  There have been many winter days I’ve put 8 hours in playing these games in my off time(as long as nothing else needed to be done). So, getting into the video game scene rather late in life, I must say after a long stretch of playing a violet game I still understand right and wrong.   I attribute that to my upbringing.  I won’t lie, there have been times I’ve played long enough to where I see something and want to “snap onto” a target.  But reality kicks in.  So the video game stance I feel can be reasonable, but if a parent is a PARENT then they shouldn’t be putting in those hours as well as the kid knowing what is right or wrong.   In that aspect I blame parents.
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El Paso Mass Shooting - by jj82284 - 08-03-2019, 10:10 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by The Drifter - 08-03-2019, 10:15 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by MalabarJag - 08-03-2019, 11:04 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by rollerjag - 08-03-2019, 11:51 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by lastonealive - 08-03-2019, 11:51 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by TheO-LineMatters - 08-04-2019, 12:49 AM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by HURRICANE!!! - 08-04-2019, 06:58 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by flsprtsgod - 08-04-2019, 07:00 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by TheO-LineMatters - 08-04-2019, 08:29 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by flsprtsgod - 08-04-2019, 09:11 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by JackCity - 08-05-2019, 07:45 AM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by jj82284 - 08-05-2019, 09:37 AM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by JackCity - 08-05-2019, 12:19 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by jj82284 - 08-05-2019, 01:56 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by JackCity - 08-05-2019, 03:20 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by mikesez - 08-04-2019, 10:02 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by TheO-LineMatters - 08-05-2019, 12:04 AM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by flsprtsgod - 08-05-2019, 12:27 AM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by mikesez - 08-05-2019, 08:34 AM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by TheO-LineMatters - 08-05-2019, 08:33 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by mikesez - 08-05-2019, 09:20 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by TheO-LineMatters - 08-06-2019, 01:09 AM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by B2hibry - 08-05-2019, 09:19 AM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by JackCity - 08-04-2019, 03:00 AM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by Cleatwood - 08-04-2019, 07:30 AM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by B2hibry - 08-04-2019, 08:35 AM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by mikesez - 08-04-2019, 08:57 AM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by B2hibry - 08-04-2019, 11:48 AM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by mikesez - 08-04-2019, 03:51 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by B2hibry - 08-04-2019, 05:30 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by StroudCrowd1 - 08-04-2019, 08:50 AM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by Adam2012 - 08-04-2019, 09:00 AM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by Cleatwood - 08-04-2019, 12:05 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by B2hibry - 08-04-2019, 12:28 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by Cleatwood - 08-04-2019, 12:48 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by flsprtsgod - 08-04-2019, 12:53 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by rollerjag - 08-04-2019, 11:22 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by StroudCrowd1 - 08-04-2019, 01:05 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by flsprtsgod - 08-04-2019, 01:10 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by Cleatwood - 08-04-2019, 01:13 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by jagibelieve - 08-04-2019, 02:10 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by JackCity - 08-04-2019, 02:45 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by StroudCrowd1 - 08-04-2019, 03:01 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by flsprtsgod - 08-04-2019, 03:14 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by homebiscuit - 08-04-2019, 03:53 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by jagibelieve - 08-04-2019, 12:08 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by The Drifter - 08-04-2019, 04:36 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by B2hibry - 08-04-2019, 05:35 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by jj82284 - 08-04-2019, 05:37 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by B2hibry - 08-04-2019, 06:36 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by Byron LeftTown - 08-04-2019, 06:37 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by lastonealive - 08-04-2019, 06:45 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by StroudCrowd1 - 08-04-2019, 08:14 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by B2hibry - 08-05-2019, 09:13 AM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by The Drifter - 08-05-2019, 03:54 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by jj82284 - 08-05-2019, 11:12 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by Kane - 08-05-2019, 04:37 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by jagibelieve - 08-05-2019, 05:51 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by Jags - 08-05-2019, 07:16 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by Kane - 08-06-2019, 04:06 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by jagibelieve - 08-06-2019, 04:44 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by The Drifter - 08-05-2019, 09:19 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by MalabarJag - 08-05-2019, 10:18 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by mikesez - 08-05-2019, 11:27 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by lastonealive - 08-05-2019, 10:53 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by Cleatwood - 08-06-2019, 06:40 AM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by flsprtsgod - 08-06-2019, 08:38 AM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by mikesez - 08-06-2019, 01:00 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by rollerjag - 08-06-2019, 04:39 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by B2hibry - 08-06-2019, 05:09 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by MalabarJag - 08-06-2019, 06:22 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by mikesez - 08-06-2019, 08:38 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by jj82284 - 08-06-2019, 08:49 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by MalabarJag - 08-06-2019, 10:02 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by mikesez - 08-06-2019, 10:36 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by americus 2.0 - 08-06-2019, 11:09 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by Cleatwood - 08-07-2019, 07:24 AM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by Kane - 08-07-2019, 11:47 AM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by rollerjag - 08-07-2019, 01:47 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by Kane - 08-07-2019, 02:34 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by MalabarJag - 08-07-2019, 06:32 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by Jags - 08-06-2019, 07:36 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by mikesez - 08-06-2019, 08:59 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by flsprtsgod - 08-07-2019, 04:58 AM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by Lucky2Last - 08-07-2019, 07:39 AM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by mikesez - 08-07-2019, 09:57 AM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by StroudCrowd1 - 08-07-2019, 10:22 AM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by B2hibry - 08-07-2019, 10:45 AM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by Byron LeftTown - 08-07-2019, 10:32 AM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by StroudCrowd1 - 08-07-2019, 12:47 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by Adam2012 - 08-07-2019, 01:08 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by B2hibry - 08-07-2019, 03:03 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by Adam2012 - 08-07-2019, 04:53 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by B2hibry - 08-07-2019, 05:45 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by flsprtsgod - 08-14-2019, 10:40 AM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by JaguarKick - 08-09-2019, 01:57 AM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by B2hibry - 08-09-2019, 08:00 AM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by StroudCrowd1 - 08-09-2019, 02:55 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by americus 2.0 - 08-09-2019, 05:02 PM
RE: El Paso Mass Shooting - by jj82284 - 08-09-2019, 05:27 PM



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