(10-26-2019, 08:20 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:

(10-26-2019, 07:18 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: How did a scientific question become a political argument?   Why are non-scientists arguing against a well-supported scientific theory, and why are they arguing about this particular one- the existence and effects of man-made climate change?  

The answer is, because if the scientists are correct, then we should probably do something about it.  And the denialists don't want to shift the discussion to solutions.  They prefer to fight it out over the science itself.  

And that tells you all you need to know about the reason a particular segment of the political spectrum, in spite of having no scientific knowledge or background, wants to argue about this particular scientific theory.   Because they don't like the implications of admitting that the scientists are correct.  

Imagine if the world's astronomers told us that a huge asteroid is going to hit the earth in 20 years.  That would not be a political issue at all.   But then if they said it would take 50 trillion dollars and a major international effort to deflect this asteroid, what would people say then?  Would they say there was no asteroid, it's all a hoax, a major international scientific fraud?  That's what's happening with the climate change question.  Some people don't like considering solutions to the problem, so they deny that there is a problem.  Add to that the fact that most proposed solutions involve painful adjustments and shrinking of some major industries who have a lot of political influence, and you see where all this denialism comes from.  Denialism originated in the oil industry.  

You're standing in the road.  I tell you there is a car coming, you better get out of the road.  You say, I don't want to get out of the road, therefore, there is no car coming.  Is that a logical response?  It's a response based on your desire to avoid dealing with the question.

Because the doomsayers are using the science for political gain, that's why. Because they've been saying this is The End for 50 years and its not. Because they cant even agree exactly what the change is, but it's really The End, swearsies. Because The End can only be averted by giving them money, power, and control. Because non-scientists are just as much a part of the doomsayers group as the non-doomsayers group and a hell of a lot more hypocritical about it. Because the scientific evidence has been shown to be flawed, misinterpreted, wrong, and in many cases down right manufactured. Because the Consensus isnt. Because we were lied to about too much already for us to believe the This Time it's really true, the Wolf really is eating the Sheep! Because the core of the Green Movement is made up of Anti-Capitalists who desire an end to our way of life and are using this charade to gain the power to do so. But other than that let's destroy the wealthiest society ever created, that has lifted more people out of poverty than any other, while totalitarian societies that do more damage to the environment are given a pass to do whatever they want, while America is at the same time making more progress on these initiatives than anyone else but that just isnt good enough, because it never ever is while there's a Crusade to fight and money to be made for those that promote it. Nah, take that [BLEEP] and go bug China and India, America needs to quit being the world's patsies.