Jalen Doesn't like Marrone/Wash, didn't like Bradely/Babich and cried on the sidelines like a child. Has there been a coach  he liked? There's your common factor. Jalen acts like he is separate from all the losing that has been going on around here. Could have helped this past Sunday by catching that damned pick six I tell ya.

This team has shown that dude a lot a flexibility in all matters personal and field/practice related and he pays them back with this.

TBF all them are horrible.

Put him with Belichick, and you won't see him cry.

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Some interesting points. From Ramsey's draft class. We saw Goff get paid, Elliott get paid and Wentz get paid. Ramsey's been just as consistent, healthier and played at an all-pro level.

They extended Telvin Smith, he sits out for this year. They released Church, Gipson & Jackson and they decide to extend Myles Jack, who gets ejected during week one.

Here it is now, they've yet to extend Ngakoue. Yet, they're eating a $16M cap hit for Bortles to play in another uniform. They also proceeded to draft replacement players between Taven Bryan, Ronnie Harrison, Josh Allen and Quincy Williams.

They also shelled out for Nick Foles and proceeded to make Brandon Linder the highest paid Center in football who can't play a full season. And they paid Andrew Norwell at the time which made him the highest paid left guard I believe. He's also underwhelmingly performed.

I can see why some fans are frustrated. And I can see why some of the players are frustrated. In Ramsey's case? It's understandably and deservingly frustrating.

This front office is a [BLEEP] joke. Between Caldwell, Coughlin and Marrone. They've been an embarrassment. And stop bringing up 2017. That was a classic one off season during a year where the AFC South had no Luck and no Watson to contest with.

We played some more creampuff teams that year too. And we had to pull trick play after trick play out of our [BLEEP] on special teams just to keep the offense on the field.

We're fixing to see Caldwell and Coughlin ship away the best player this team has probably fielded since the days of Jimmy Smith and Tony Boselli. And they will more than likely be fired by January of next year.

Khan has to clean this up. Khan has to get this right in 2020. I am not sure how much value they will get for Ramsey. But Khan MUST hire a proven winner at the General Manager position. And that General Manager MUST hire a proven winner at the Head Coaching position.

This front office though has to go. Caldwell should have been shown the door in 2016 along with Bradley. That draft class now is no good if you ship Ramsey off, continue to draw out Ngakoue's extension in Jacksonville and then extend the WEAKEST link of that trio in Myles Jack first.

Just disrespectful and dissapointing. But it's pretty clear that Caldwell, Coughlin and Marrone have lost that lockeroom and lost a lot of respect by the few elite players they have left. Khan has to step up, step in and clean this [BLEEP] up for moving forward.

Hopefully sooner rather than later.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Jalen Doesn't like Marrone/Wash, didn't like Bradely/Babich and cried on the sidelines like a child. Has there been a coach  he liked? There's your common factor. Jalen acts like he is separate from all the losing that has been going on around here. Could have helped this past Sunday by catching that damned pick six I tell ya.

This team has shown that dude a lot a flexibility in all matters personal and field/practice related and he pays them back with this.

Ramsey didn't like bad HC and bad DC, and he didn't like the other bad HC and bad DC. We have that in common, I don't like these two sets of awful coaches either.

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If this FO doesn't come away with AT LEAST two 1st round picks, Khan better walk in and fire them on the spot. Tunsil netted two 1sts and a 2nd and he isn't even half the player that Ramsey is.

The reason Tunsil netted so much is because he is a young, promising LT. Left Tackles are a premium position in the NFL and next to QB, have the highest value to teams. They saw Tunsil as having the possibility of being an elite LT in the next 3 years. If he turns into that, well they made a good deal. If he is anything other than elite by that time, then they got hosed. I don't expect Ramsey to get that much in return, because CB's don't have the value of a LT. That's just the way the NFL is. I do expect us to get back at least two first round picks or a first, a third and a good, established player at a position of need or else there is no sense in trading him.

And on top of that Bill O’brien’s seat is extremely warm and he needs to win now.

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I think its a given that Yannick gets signed after we trade Ramsey.

You think Yannick wants to be here after this? He is gone and potentially doesn't play again this season with his hammy "injured".

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Some interesting points. From Ramsey's draft class. We saw Goff get paid, Elliott get paid and Wentz get paid. Ramsey's been just as consistent, healthier and played at an all-pro level.

They extended Telvin Smith, he sits out for this year. They released Church, Gipson & Jackson and they decide to extend Myles Jack, who gets ejected during week one.

Here it is now, they've yet to extend Ngakoue. Yet, they're eating a $16M cap hit for Bortles to play in another uniform. They also proceeded to draft replacement players between Taven Bryan, Ronnie Harrison, Josh Allen and Quincy Williams.

They also shelled out for Nick Foles and proceeded to make Brandon Linder the highest paid Center in football who can't play a full season. And they paid Andrew Norwell at the time which made him the highest paid left guard I believe. He's also underwhelmingly performed.

I can see why some fans are frustrated. And I can see why some of the players are frustrated. In Ramsey's case? It's understandably and deservingly frustrating.

This front office is a [BLEEP] joke. Between Caldwell, Coughlin and Marrone. They've been an embarrassment. And stop bringing up 2017. That was a classic one off season during a year where the AFC South had no Luck and no Watson to contest with.

We played some more creampuff teams that year too. And we had to pull trick play after trick play out of our [BLEEP] on special teams just to keep the offense on the field.

We're fixing to see Caldwell and Coughlin ship away the best player this team has probably fielded since the days of Jimmy Smith and Tony Boselli. And they will more than likely be fired by January of next year.

Khan has to clean this up. Khan has to get this right in 2020. I am not sure how much value they will get for Ramsey. But Khan MUST hire a proven winner at the General Manager position. And that General Manager MUST hire a proven winner at the Head Coaching position.

This front office though has to go. Caldwell should have been shown the door in 2016 along with Bradley. That draft class now is no good if you ship Ramsey off, continue to draw out Ngakoue's extension in Jacksonville and then extend the WEAKEST link of that trio in Myles Jack first.

Just disrespectful and dissapointing. But it's pretty clear that Caldwell, Coughlin and Marrone have lost that lockeroom and lost a lot of respect by the few elite players they have left. Khan has to step up, step in and clean this [BLEEP] up for moving forward.

Hopefully sooner rather than later.

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I always find it interesting how someone can determine a coach lost the locker room with no access to the players or what goes on in the locker room.  There wasn't one player that I saw interviewed that questioned the two-point call or showed a lack of respect for the coaching staff. Can you show any proof or facts that support your determination that the coaches have lost the locker room?

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Some interesting points. From Ramsey's draft class. We saw Goff get paid, Elliott get paid and Wentz get paid. Ramsey's been just as consistent, healthier and played at an all-pro level.

They extended Telvin Smith, he sits out for this year. They released Church, Gipson & Jackson and they decide to extend Myles Jack, who gets ejected during week one.

Here it is now, they've yet to extend Ngakoue. Yet, they're eating a $16M cap hit for Bortles to play in another uniform. They also proceeded to draft replacement players between Taven Bryan, Ronnie Harrison, Josh Allen and Quincy Williams.

They also shelled out for Nick Foles and proceeded to make Brandon Linder the highest paid Center in football who can't play a full season. And they paid Andrew Norwell at the time which made him the highest paid left guard I believe. He's also underwhelmingly performed.

I can see why some fans are frustrated. And I can see why some of the players are frustrated. In Ramsey's case? It's understandably and deservingly frustrating.

This front office is a [BLEEP] joke. Between Caldwell, Coughlin and Marrone. They've been an embarrassment. And stop bringing up 2017. That was a classic one off season during a year where the AFC South had no Luck and no Watson to contest with.

We played some more creampuff teams that year too. And we had to pull trick play after trick play out of our [BLEEP] on special teams just to keep the offense on the field.

We're fixing to see Caldwell and Coughlin ship away the best player this team has probably fielded since the days of Jimmy Smith and Tony Boselli. And they will more than likely be fired by January of next year.

Khan has to clean this up. Khan has to get this right in 2020. I am not sure how much value they will get for Ramsey. But Khan MUST hire a proven winner at the General Manager position. And that General Manager MUST hire a proven winner at the Head Coaching position.

This front office though has to go. Caldwell should have been shown the door in 2016 along with Bradley. That draft class now is no good if you ship Ramsey off, continue to draw out Ngakoue's extension in Jacksonville and then extend the WEAKEST link of that trio in Myles Jack first.

Just disrespectful and dissapointing. But it's pretty clear that Caldwell, Coughlin and Marrone have lost that lockeroom and lost a lot of respect by the few elite players they have left. Khan has to step up, step in and clean this [BLEEP] up for moving forward.

Hopefully sooner rather than later.

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I always find it interesting how someone can determine a coach lost the locker room with no access to the players or what goes on in the locker room.  There wasn't one player that I saw interviewed that questioned the two-point call or showed a lack of respect for the coaching staff. Can you show any proof or facts that support your determination that the coaches have lost the locker room?

This guy lol

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Jags love what the Chiefs are offering

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Hopefully 2 1sts and more.  I think its 2 1sts at minimum

2 Chiefs 1sts is essentially the same as 2 Dolphins 2nds.  Hard pass.

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Jags love what the Chiefs are offering

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Hopefully 2 1sts and more.  I think its 2 1sts at minimum

2 Chiefs 1sts is essentially the same as 2 Dolphins 2nds.  Hard pass.

Exactly.

This whole situation is a mess and it started with the fluke 2017 offseason/season. Firing Bradley but keeping all of his assistants. Drafting Fournette instead of drafting for the future. Playing god awful QBs which led to a 10-6 record and people thinking Blake is good. Then doubling down on Blake when it was clear he was bad. Then drafting Taven Bryan instead of guards/tight ends when they were a clear area of weakness. 

They should have just completely cleaned house after Bradley but instead, they basically kept everything the same.

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I always find it interesting how someone can determine a coach lost the locker room with no access to the players or what goes on in the locker room.  There wasn't one player that I saw interviewed that questioned the two-point call or showed a lack of respect for the coaching staff. Can you show any proof or facts that support your determination that the coaches have lost the locker room?

This guy lol

So you don't need facts to support comments about the coaches and players. Just throw crap at the wall and hope it sticks. lol

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Some interesting points. From Ramsey's draft class. We saw Goff get paid, Elliott get paid and Wentz get paid. Ramsey's been just as consistent, healthier and played at an all-pro level.

They extended Telvin Smith, he sits out for this year. They released Church, Gipson & Jackson and they decide to extend Myles Jack, who gets ejected during week one.

Here it is now, they've yet to extend Ngakoue. Yet, they're eating a $16M cap hit for Bortles to play in another uniform. They also proceeded to draft replacement players between Taven Bryan, Ronnie Harrison, Josh Allen and Quincy Williams.

They also shelled out for Nick Foles and proceeded to make Brandon Linder the highest paid Center in football who can't play a full season. And they paid Andrew Norwell at the time which made him the highest paid left guard I believe. He's also underwhelmingly performed.

I can see why some fans are frustrated. And I can see why some of the players are frustrated. In Ramsey's case? It's understandably and deservingly frustrating.

This front office is a [BLEEP] joke. Between Caldwell, Coughlin and Marrone. They've been an embarrassment. And stop bringing up 2017. That was a classic one off season during a year where the AFC South had no Luck and no Watson to contest with.

We played some more creampuff teams that year too. And we had to pull trick play after trick play out of our [BLEEP] on special teams just to keep the offense on the field.

We're fixing to see Caldwell and Coughlin ship away the best player this team has probably fielded since the days of Jimmy Smith and Tony Boselli. And they will more than likely be fired by January of next year.

Khan has to clean this up. Khan has to get this right in 2020. I am not sure how much value they will get for Ramsey. But Khan MUST hire a proven winner at the General Manager position. And that General Manager MUST hire a proven winner at the Head Coaching position.

This front office though has to go. Caldwell should have been shown the door in 2016 along with Bradley. That draft class now is no good if you ship Ramsey off, continue to draw out Ngakoue's extension in Jacksonville and then extend the WEAKEST link of that trio in Myles Jack first.

Just disrespectful and dissapointing. But it's pretty clear that Caldwell, Coughlin and Marrone have lost that lockeroom and lost a lot of respect by the few elite players they have left. Khan has to step up, step in and clean this [BLEEP] up for moving forward.

Hopefully sooner rather than later.

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I agree 110%. I just have a bad feeling though, that nothing is gonna change and we will continue to be a mediocre team at best.

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2 Chiefs 1sts is essentially the same as 2 Dolphins 2nds.  Hard pass.

Exactly.

This whole situation is a mess and it started with the fluke 2017 offseason/season. Firing Bradley but keeping all of his assistants. Drafting Fournette instead of drafting for the future. Playing god awful QBs which led to a 10-6 record and people thinking Blake is good. Then doubling down on Blake when it was clear he was bad. Then drafting Taven Bryan instead of guards/tight ends when they were a clear area of weakness. 

They should have just completely cleaned house after Bradley but instead, they basically kept everything the same.

Agree 110%.

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Some interesting points. From Ramsey's draft class. We saw Goff get paid, Elliott get paid and Wentz get paid. Ramsey's been just as consistent, healthier and played at an all-pro level.

They extended Telvin Smith, he sits out for this year. They released Church, Gipson & Jackson and they decide to extend Myles Jack, who gets ejected during week one.

Here it is now, they've yet to extend Ngakoue. Yet, they're eating a $16M cap hit for Bortles to play in another uniform. They also proceeded to draft replacement players between Taven Bryan, Ronnie Harrison, Josh Allen and Quincy Williams.

They also shelled out for Nick Foles and proceeded to make Brandon Linder the highest paid Center in football who can't play a full season. And they paid Andrew Norwell at the time which made him the highest paid left guard I believe. He's also underwhelmingly performed.

I can see why some fans are frustrated. And I can see why some of the players are frustrated. In Ramsey's case? It's understandably and deservingly frustrating.

This front office is a [BLEEP] joke. Between Caldwell, Coughlin and Marrone. They've been an embarrassment. And stop bringing up 2017. That was a classic one off season during a year where the AFC South had no Luck and no Watson to contest with.

We played some more creampuff teams that year too. And we had to pull trick play after trick play out of our [BLEEP] on special teams just to keep the offense on the field.

We're fixing to see Caldwell and Coughlin ship away the best player this team has probably fielded since the days of Jimmy Smith and Tony Boselli. And they will more than likely be fired by January of next year.

Khan has to clean this up. Khan has to get this right in 2020. I am not sure how much value they will get for Ramsey. But Khan MUST hire a proven winner at the General Manager position. And that General Manager MUST hire a proven winner at the Head Coaching position.

This front office though has to go. Caldwell should have been shown the door in 2016 along with Bradley. That draft class now is no good if you ship Ramsey off, continue to draw out Ngakoue's extension in Jacksonville and then extend the WEAKEST link of that trio in Myles Jack first.

Just disrespectful and dissapointing. But it's pretty clear that Caldwell, Coughlin and Marrone have lost that lockeroom and lost a lot of respect by the few elite players they have left. Khan has to step up, step in and clean this [BLEEP] up for moving forward.

Hopefully sooner rather than later.

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I always find it interesting how someone can determine a coach lost the locker room with no access to the players or what goes on in the locker room.  There wasn't one player that I saw interviewed that questioned the two-point call or showed a lack of respect for the coaching staff. Can you show any proof or facts that support your determination that the coaches have lost the locker room?

When Telvin Smith sits out a year. Jalen Ramsey wants out. Ngakoue is unhappy with contract talks. Myles Jack gets ejected. Fournette throws punches and has a sit down in the off season and most of those guys are considered team "Captains".

You've lost a lot in that lockeroom. Just because the 2nd year players and new faces on offense [Who got paid up front] are being non vocal about it doesn't mean there's not a problem.

Marrone is simply not a good enough football coach to lead an entire football team in the NFL. I have seen enough. It's time to move on before we continue to lose more and more talent due to incompetent decision makers in the front office and coaching staff.

And I also DO NOT condone Ramsey's behavior. You can be disgruntled and behave with professionalism. Ngakoue is doing it correctly. But there's no winning in this situation. They'll have to shop Ramsey around now. He forced their hand unfortunately and most men are prideful.

Especially old New Yorkers like Marrone and Coughlin. It's bittersweet. But I believe they ALL [Ramsey, Marrone, Wash, Caldwell & Coughlin] need to go after all of this nonsense.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

When Telvin Smith sits out a year. Jalen Ramsey wants out. Ngakoue is unhappy with contract talks. Myles Jack gets ejected. Fournette throws punches and has a sit down in the off season and most of those guys are considered team "Captains".

You've lost a lot in that lockeroom. Just because the 2nd year players and new faces on offense [Who got paid up front] are being non vocal about it doesn't mean there's not a problem.

Marrone is simply not a good enough football coach to lead an entire football team in the NFL. I have seen enough. It's time to move on before we continue to lose more and more talent due to incompetent decision makers in the front office and coaching staff.

And I also DO NOT condone Ramsey's behavior. You can be disgruntled and behave with professionalism. Ngakoue is doing it correctly. But there's no winning in this situation. They'll have to shop Ramsey around now. He forced their hand unfortunately and most men are prideful.

Especially old New Yorkers like Marrone and Coughlin. It's bittersweet. But I believe they should ALL [Ramsey, Marrone, Wash, Caldwell & Coughlin] need to go after all of this nonsense.

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Have they lost the lockerroom or is the lockerroom full of headcases?  Nagkoue is the only true professional out of those players you listed.  He has done everything the right way but the team decided not to "overpay" for him.  Which I think is a mistake.  

But i do agree that all those people you listed need to go.  The coaches/front office were likely on their way out before this.  Khan has spent a ton of money and this team just isnt as good as it should be.  But you can't allow an immature player like Ramsey look like he won because this will only enable his personality in the future.  What will he do if he doesnt like the next coach?  Throw a bigger tantrum.  He needs to go.

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Scouting well is all that matters.  Draft philosophy is all fluff.

You guys remember that Jags had a problem with Rison a few years back. Once they traded him, the team started playing like a team. I like Ramsey. He is super talented. That said, one personality that causes division can do more damage than we realize. If we get a decent haul from the trade, I'd be for it. This one really has me on the fence.

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When Telvin Smith sits out a year.

I wonder if Telvin needed to get away from the team. We all thought he was crazy, maybe he couldn't stand it any more.

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When Telvin Smith sits out a year. Jalen Ramsey wants out. Ngakoue is unhappy with contract talks. Myles Jack gets ejected. Fournette throws punches and has a sit down in the off season and most of those guys are considered team "Captains".

You've lost a lot in that lockeroom. Just because the 2nd year players and new faces on offense [Who got paid up front] are being non vocal about it doesn't mean there's not a problem.

Marrone is simply not a good enough football coach to lead an entire football team in the NFL. I have seen enough. It's time to move on before we continue to lose more and more talent due to incompetent decision makers in the front office and coaching staff.

And I also DO NOT condone Ramsey's behavior. You can be disgruntled and behave with professionalism. Ngakoue is doing it correctly. But there's no winning in this situation. They'll have to shop Ramsey around now. He forced their hand unfortunately and most men are prideful.

Especially old New Yorkers like Marrone and Coughlin. It's bittersweet. But I believe they should ALL [Ramsey, Marrone, Wash, Caldwell & Coughlin] need to go after all of this nonsense.

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Have they lost the lockerroom or is the lockerroom full of headcases?  Nagkoue is the only true professional out of those players you listed.  He has done everything the right way but the team decided not to "overpay" for him.  Which I think is a mistake.  

But i do agree that all those people you listed need to go.  The coaches/front office were likely on their way out before this.  Khan has spent a ton of money and this team just isnt as good as it should be.  But you can't allow an immature player like Ramsey look like he won because this will only enable his personality in the future.  What will he do if he doesnt like the next coach?  Throw a bigger tantrum.  He needs to go.

This is my position as well. If you “Give in” to Ramsey, what happens if the next coach decides to run zone schemes, or have a different game plan outside of man? Do you fire him too? How about the coordinator? Should we just hire Ramsey as the coach and coordinator so that he can do what he wants whenever he wants?

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

This is my position as well. If you “Give in” to Ramsey, what happens if the next coach decides to run zone schemes, or have a different game plan outside of man? Do you fire him too? How about the coordinator? Should we just hire Ramsey as the coach and coordinator so that he can do what he wants whenever he wants?

What you do is ask the potential coaches if they are set in their ways and their schemes or if they are willing to adapt to the skill sets of their players. If they say the former then you stop the interview on the spot and tell them thanks for their time but they can leave now.

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I always find it interesting how someone can determine a coach lost the locker room with no access to the players or what goes on in the locker room.  There wasn't one player that I saw interviewed that questioned the two-point call or showed a lack of respect for the coaching staff. Can you show any proof or facts that support your determination that the coaches have lost the locker room?

When Telvin Smith sits out a year. Jalen Ramsey wants out. Ngakoue is unhappy with contract talks. Myles Jack gets ejected. Fournette throws punches and has a sit down in the off season and most of those guys are considered team "Captains".

You've lost a lot in that lockeroom. Just because the 2nd year players and new faces on offense [Who got paid up front] are being non vocal about it doesn't mean there's not a problem.

Marrone is simply not a good enough football coach to lead an entire football team in the NFL. I have seen enough. It's time to move on before we continue to lose more and more talent due to incompetent decision makers in the front office and coaching staff.

And I also DO NOT condone Ramsey's behavior. You can be disgruntled and behave with professionalism. Ngakoue is doing it correctly. But there's no winning in this situation. They'll have to shop Ramsey around now. He forced their hand unfortunately and most men are prideful.

Especially old New Yorkers like Marrone and Coughlin. It's bittersweet. But I believe they should ALL [Ramsey, Marrone, Wash, Caldwell & Coughlin] need to go after all of this nonsense.

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Nqakoue was offed 19 mil and I don't think he is worth any more money. Nothing I have heard about Talvin Smith sitting out was about the coaches or team. Calais seemed to indicate that Talvin was dealing with personal issues. I am in complete agreement with you on the lack of discipline by players that has been the result of bonehead penalties. That falls directly on Marrone's shoulders.  As for Myles contract, the team has to manage the cap and there was no way they could give both Nqakoue and Jalen contracts this year. So when Yan refused his contract they had the money to sign Myles and get one player our of the way. I can't say Marrone did not lose the locker room but I don't think you have proof he did. As for Marrone he is on the hot seat and may very well be gone this year or next.

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Taken me a couple hours to catch all up here since I got up.

Many of you make great points about taking different approaches to solving this "problem".
The irony to me is Khan hired Tom to keep him from having to deal with day to day stuff and I presume major stuff as well.
Yet here we are ..... day to day frustrations blowing up to MAJOR stuff.

Where does the Big 'Stache step in? ....or does he? He made it clear that at minimum only a winning season is acceptable from the current
FO .....and I would think that includes TC. Since it appears that outcome has little or no chance of happening.
Let's start the process now.

The only solution I see is for TC to "retire" ,after removing Marrone and promoting Flip to HC - temp ....... Khan taking over the Team as an active owner until season end (when coaching carousel starts) and having a meet with Ramsey, Caldwell and Wash. Get everyone on the same page until season end ....(Ramsey's beef seems more with Marrone?)
And let's see where we go ......if Ramsey still wants out ....Caldwell has the whole rest of the season to find him a home.

Not complicated .....Marrone out....TC retire ......hopefully , the CB who said he wanted to retire a Jaguar happy,
owner can be on lookout for new hC (assuming Flip doesn't excel) and maybe even a new gM.

Long story short....it's time for the Big Man to step in.

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"Stay tight, stay close. Great things are going to continue to happen for this football team."  - Doug Peterson

You guys remember that Jags had a problem with Rison a few years back. Once they traded him, the team started playing like a team. I like Ramsey. He is super talented. That said, one personality that causes division can do more damage than we realize. If we get a decent haul from the trade, I'd be for it. This one really has me on the fence.

this same nonsense argument was used last year when Fowler was traded.
Also, Rison was nowhere near the player that Jalen is currently.

Jalen needs to be a Jaguar, simple as that.

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