(09-17-2019, 10:11 AM)Caldrac Wrote:

(09-17-2019, 10:00 AM)dennisp3 Wrote: I always find it interesting how someone can determine a coach lost the locker room with no access to the players or what goes on in the locker room.  There wasn't one player that I saw interviewed that questioned the two-point call or showed a lack of respect for the coaching staff. Can you show any proof or facts that support your determination that the coaches have lost the locker room?

When Telvin Smith sits out a year. Jalen Ramsey wants out. Ngakoue is unhappy with contract talks. Myles Jack gets ejected. Fournette throws punches and has a sit down in the off season and most of those guys are considered team "Captains".

You've lost a lot in that lockeroom. Just because the 2nd year players and new faces on offense [Who got paid up front] are being non vocal about it doesn't mean there's not a problem.

Marrone is simply not a good enough football coach to lead an entire football team in the NFL. I have seen enough. It's time to move on before we continue to lose more and more talent due to incompetent decision makers in the front office and coaching staff.

And I also DO NOT condone Ramsey's behavior. You can be disgruntled and behave with professionalism. Ngakoue is doing it correctly. But there's no winning in this situation. They'll have to shop Ramsey around now. He forced their hand unfortunately and most men are prideful.

Especially old New Yorkers like Marrone and Coughlin. It's bittersweet. But I believe they should ALL [Ramsey, Marrone, Wash, Caldwell & Coughlin] need to go after all of this nonsense.

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Nqakoue was offed 19 mil and I don't think he is worth any more money. Nothing I have heard about Talvin Smith sitting out was about the coaches or team. Calais seemed to indicate that Talvin was dealing with personal issues. I am in complete agreement with you on the lack of discipline by players that has been the result of bonehead penalties. That falls directly on Marrone's shoulders.  As for Myles contract, the team has to manage the cap and there was no way they could give both Nqakoue and Jalen contracts this year. So when Yan refused his contract they had the money to sign Myles and get one player our of the way. I can't say Marrone did not lose the locker room but I don't think you have proof he did. As for Marrone he is on the hot seat and may very well be gone this year or next.

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