(09-24-2019, 10:33 AM)homebiscuit Wrote:

(09-24-2019, 10:27 AM)Rico Wrote: Were they under contract already?  Had the season already started?

And did they request trade due to a personality conflict?

How is that relevant?

Whether he requests a trade due to a personality conflict, wanting a new contract, questioning the scheme, etc., any player who asks for a trade and has that request become public knowledge is going to be painted as a malcontent.

Furthermore, why is it presumed Ramsey is the sole unreasonable person in this equation?  Assuming he had the interaction with Coughlin, NOBODY posting in this thread knows exactly who said what to whom.  It's entirely possible TC was right to chastise Ramsey but went too far in doing so.

It's not as if TC hasn't alienated players before.

Players here hated him in his first stint.  When he went to the Giants, the players there were on the verge of revolt, until Strahan confronted TC ant told him he had to change or completely lose the team.  

https://www.newsday.com/sports/media/mic...-1.6240814

Were those '95-99 Jaguars hypersensitive?  Was Strahan entitled and petulant?  Were those Giants teams all raised improperly?

https://www.newsday.com/sports/tough-way...d-1.728955

Reading the articles, some of the best players hated him initially, but over time, they saw the method to his madness and many developed an appreciation for him.  Assuming TC hasn't changed much over time, why should Ramsey catch flak for having a similar adverse reaction to him as other successful players?

If this is something that has built up over time, does Ramsey get any credit for NOT speaking out until now?

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(09-24-2019, 07:57 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Ladies and Gentlemen:

Can we please stop injecting agism and generation into this debate repeatedly??
Please?

Let's debate one another's points rather than simply issuing blanket statement takes about the various supposed generations of one another.  

I don't care if you were born in 1958, 1964, 1980, 1999 or yesterday. This applies to everyone. 
Thank You. 

Alright alright.  I'm getting off your lawn!

Sheesh!

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