(09-26-2019, 10:42 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:

(09-26-2019, 06:53 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: I take it you don’t have kids.

I slept on that god awful “chair bed” they have in the room for dads. For 3 days because guess what.... I’m the father.

Telling someone they should go back to work the day after their child is born when it’s THEIR child and not yours is wrong. It’s literally none of your business what he does after the baby is born and there is no rules for how long he can stay away. So you can’t fine him like you would want to.

He should have done better planning, when it came to having kids. At least he made the first one so his girlfriend gave birth before the regular season. You actually can plan for children and when you are paid millions of dollars to play a game, I expect you at work, if you are physically able. For God sakes, the man only works half a year! These games are for real and the team is paying him a lot of money to be on the field, helping win games. Again, I'm not telling SOMEONE to go back to work the day a after their kid is born. I am telling a FATHER who only lives an hour away from his home and makes A LOT of money, to go back to work. You can either chose to have kids during the season and be fined game checks or have them in the off season and receive full pay. If I am a team owner, it is my business what he does after the baby is born, because I'm paying him to be at work. If he isn't there, that is an offense that they could fine him for.

Lots of players have a child born during the season. Many of them will miss a game if the child is born or the mother goes into labor shortly beforehand. They're not fined, they don't lose a game check any more than you or I would if we got a phone call during work that our SO was in labor and told our boss that we had to get to the hospital right frickin' now. The idea that a job should take priority over the birth of a child is kinda laughable, maybe even a bit worrisome.

The issue in this scenario is that the father involved has told the team he wants a trade, caught a "flu" when that wasn't granted, then had a phantom back injury that no one knew about despite having been "told" about it during the game, and now is on what appears to be more or less indefinite personal leave, drawing up a blueprint for any future player that wants to force their way off of the Jaguars roster. Were it not for those first three pieces of information, you'd have no business and no need to complain about the fourth. Let's not pretend this is about a guy having a kid during the season. This is about a specific guy (whose lifestyle you seem not to approve of) handling things in a very specific way to get to the end goal he wants.

And, again, if he's not back at work the week following the kid's birth, send the five-day letter. I'd rather have a disgruntled Ramsey in the building than one outside of it telling anyone who'll listen how much he hates the Jaguars organization. And if he is outside telling everyone how much he hates this team, then let's put him on a reserve list that strips him of pay, of any chance to be traded and of any chance to play (or even be around the team) again this year.

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