(09-27-2019, 07:49 PM)Senor Fantastico Wrote:

(09-27-2019, 02:02 PM)Caldrac Wrote: That's not going to happen. Here's what I would do with the Eagles. I want the following on the table, they either take it or leave it:

2020's 1st & 3rd RD picks
2021's 1st, 2nd & 5th RD picks
Jordan Howard at RB
Zach Ertz at TE

They're desperate for a Superbowl win and feel the weakest link is CB. They pay a premium for it.

(09-27-2019, 04:36 PM)Caldrac Wrote: Again, they want a premium player? They need to pay a premium price for it. They're getting a premier player at the CB position at a young age that would lock down any team's No. 1 receiver on a man-to-man basis in a Jim Schwartz style defense. He literally takes away one side of the entire football field if he's on his A game. Which 9 times out of 10 he is. 

They would be getting either a 24 year old RB in Howard who they were trying to ship off anyway at some point this year and they've been trying to feature Sanders more out of the backfield having invested a decent draft pick on him back in April. And with Ertz they would be getting a 28 year old TE who they drafted Goedert last year to more than likely bump up the depth chart going into next year anyway. 

So I don't think it's THAT far fetched to believe. They may NOT want to part ways with BOTH players but they certainly wouldn't mind forking over at least one of them given that they're pretty well off on the depth chart. Draft wise they're giving up at the minimum mid to late 1st & 2nd RD picks in next year's draft and a 2nd and 3rd RD pick in 2021's draft. 

Small price to pay IMHO for a guaranteed shutdown CB for late picks anyways where they're glaringly hurting for talent and consistency.

(09-27-2019, 06:23 PM)Caldrac Wrote: I don't think it's being greedy. I would expect a counter offer. Of course the odds of them shipping off Ertz and Howard plus picks for Ramsey is a high ball offer.

They have to set the table here though. Clearly teams see value in Ramsey. As they draw this out towards the deadline you'll see teams getting more hungry for that Superbowl.

The Eagles probably have more of a need to prove it with Wentz in the line up. They have already done it once. I dont think its too crazy at all that they shell out more in this deal.

If they go in with: 2020's 1 & 2, 2021's 1, 3 & 5 + Ertz & Howard at the table. They'll think it's comical... at first.

Then we're two or three more weeks in and they're narrowingly winning games like last night due to the secondary getting roasted.

They will counter offer with probably something like: 2020's 1 & 3, 2021's 2 & 4 and Ertz or Howard.

At that point they decide whether or not it's worth the trade. It's no different than trying to sell / buy a car or house. You go in overselling it, but you expect them to slightly undersell it. Which is where you wanted them to be all along.

But if you go in too low you'll never know exactly what they were willing to part ways with for that 2nd shot at a Superbowl trip.



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You're all over the place. Initially you said this was a take it or leave it offer and then spent the next few posts defending your package by switching picks around and then saying this would only be your starting point in a negotiation. Which is it?

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