(09-30-2019, 06:27 AM)Bullseye Wrote: [quote pid='1242224' dateline='1569814409']

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(09-29-2019, 11:32 PM)Bullseye Wrote: In their Super Bowl wins, the Patriots have had Ty Law, Aqib Talib, Darelle Revis and Steohon Gilmore  at CB.  While it may be true you don't necessarily need a shot down CB to win it all, it certainly helps, and the Patriots are the last team you should vote to prove your point.

Herndon was beaten for two TDs.

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My point isn’t that you don’t need a good defense, my point was to not put all of our focus on one guy on defense. 

Our defense was better than the Pats defense in 2017.Who won the AFC and why?

We FINALLY have a good QB and quite frankly, I didn’t see the defense holding us back today, I saw the offensive line. Yes, I would have liked to see the defense as a whole play better, but watching Minshew have to pull Michael Jackson dance moves to get passes off was painful.

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I didn't say you said you don't need a good defense.  You specifically limited the discussion to shut down CBs.  To that end, why would having Ramsey amount to putting all of the defensive focus on one guy?  The team signed Campbell and Bouye to huge contracts.  The team made a trade for Marcell Dareus, who had another huge contract.  The team re-signed Myles Jack.  The team had re-signed Telvin Smith before he retired.  The team attempted to re-sign Ngakoue.  Seems to me the team thus far has focused on everyone BUT Ramsey.

Statistically overall, the 2017 Jaguars were better than the 2017 Patriots.  But the Patriot defense was better in the second half of that championship game.  We could get no running game going in the second half.  I also think the disparate officiating played a role in the loss too.

You didn't see the defense holding us back?  Herndon was beaten for two TDs and several other big plays.  The defense was going up against an immobile QB with a banged up and weak pass protecting line and didn't get any sacks.  They gave up 24 points, including losing the lead with 1:32 left.  Didn't hold the team back?

Now I readily admit the OL was problematic today.  But unlike the defense, the offense had two premier players long their defensive front to account for in Von Miller and Bradley Chubb.
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The defense did OK yesterday...OK.. but at the same time didn’t show up quite a few times. Having Ramsey in would have helped, but he is only one guy. How many times has Ramsey been there and our defense still didn’t show up? He may be able to lock down one guy, but he can’t lock down everyone. We have also proven we are capable of losing A LOT with him last year. 

Our offensive line ruined last season. Our offensive line has caused our run game to be incredibly weak the first 3 weeks of play, let our starting QB get hurt, and has Minshew dancing like Michael Jackson in the pocket. It’s a matter of time before Minshew gets hurt.

My point is, when the defense shows up as a whole, we are OK without Ramsey. Ramsey doesn’t want to be here and may continue to be plagued by ‘back’ problems until he’s out of here. In the meantime...if we could get a good blocking TE or OL for him...

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