(10-23-2019, 10:04 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:

(10-23-2019, 09:47 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: It worked fine. We aren't the World's Police Department, it isn't our fault that they want to kill each other the minute we aren't willing to stop it and we are under no obligation to do so.

You don't think we have at least a moral obligation, to our allies in the fight against ISIS, to at least give them a little warning before we walk away and tell their enemies to go ahead and attack?  We should just let innocent people die because "we are under no obligation?"  When all we had to do was nothing?  Just stay where we were?  How about at least telling them, "in a couple of months we are going to be leaving.  Watch out for the Turks."  Or should we just up and walk out all of a sudden, when our allies, who lost 10,000 soldiers in the fight against ISIS so we didn't have to, are facing attack from their enemies, elimination of all their hopes and dreams, shelling of their cities, killing of their women and children?  We just walk out because the dictator of Turkey asked Trump to get our soldiers out of the way so he could attack our allies?  Do you think there is any value to having credibility and the trust of other countries and people around the world?

Frankly I expect better from u.  The level of ignorance is beginning to border on embarrassing.  

What is the purpose of boots on the ground in this situation?  Strategic deterrence.  We were never going to nation build a Kurdistan.  If that strategic objective can be achieved I. The absence of our troops being present through a combination of a military alliance between Kurdish forces and greater Syrian ( which we HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR for a long time) coupled with economic pressure through sanctions then it makes sense to withdraw.  

Moreover, our presence potentially served as a retardant to talks because it insulated both sides from the reality of conflict and allowed them to indulge in ideological as l fantasy as opposed to stark realities.  The Kurds realized it made sense to make a workable deal with syria and Turkey realized they weren't inclined to make a move against Assad's sovereign territory with Russia backing him.  

The result?  A defacto stalemate that precipitates stability through, wait for it, STRATEGIC DETERENCE.

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