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Judge them by their words

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(11-02-2019, 12:42 PM)MalabarJag Wrote:
(11-02-2019, 10:14 AM)mikesez Wrote: I don't disagree that Rosenstein was a career government employee. But he was also appointed by Trump. Both things are true.
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make with minimizing the fact that Trump appointed him.
What does it matter?
Manafort lied on his tax returns for years, and he was finally prosecuted for it. Manafort's taxes were not the initial scope of Mueller's investigation.  Robert Mueller was tasked with finding out if anybody working for Trump's campaign was beholden to or coordinating with Russians or other foreigners. He did not find convincing evidence for that, but, in the course of investigating that, he found that Paul Manafort had a lot of unreported income. 
Which part of this process do you object to?

Knowingly stating something that's true while it's only a meaningless factor in the whole picture to make a point is "spin," which is a type of lie.

You originally claimed that asking for foreign help in an investigation was unethical. Manafort was the counter argument. It was fair game to request info on Manafort although that should have been done in the original context. Instead it was in a clear, long after the fact, spite move to make him a victim because he couldn't or wouldn't provide any dirt Trump.

If Joe Biden got his son a fat "paycheck" by using his position to coerce a foreign power, that's far worse than asking for any information the foreign power had on the topic.

His basic premise, that it's in the national interest to enable corruption and obstruction of justice but a crime to pursue reasonable suspicion if the target is a political rival, is the kind of word salad only a never trumper could stomach.
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Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 10-31-2019, 02:04 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by homebiscuit - 10-31-2019, 02:17 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by flsprtsgod - 10-31-2019, 02:23 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by StroudCrowd1 - 10-31-2019, 02:40 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by flsprtsgod - 10-31-2019, 03:02 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 10-31-2019, 03:12 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by jagibelieve - 10-31-2019, 05:21 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 10-31-2019, 08:56 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by Sneakers - 10-31-2019, 07:10 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 10-31-2019, 10:09 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by jj82284 - 10-31-2019, 10:29 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by flsprtsgod - 10-31-2019, 10:43 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 11-01-2019, 06:55 AM
RE: Judge them by their words - by jj82284 - 11-01-2019, 07:02 AM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 11-01-2019, 09:57 AM
RE: Judge them by their words - by flsprtsgod - 11-01-2019, 10:10 AM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 11-01-2019, 10:25 AM
RE: Judge them by their words - by TrivialPursuit - 11-01-2019, 10:53 AM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 11-01-2019, 11:36 AM
RE: Judge them by their words - by jj82284 - 11-01-2019, 12:42 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 11-01-2019, 01:22 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by MalabarJag - 11-01-2019, 02:46 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 11-01-2019, 11:47 AM
RE: Judge them by their words - by MalabarJag - 11-01-2019, 02:36 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 11-01-2019, 02:55 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by MalabarJag - 11-02-2019, 09:12 AM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 11-02-2019, 10:14 AM
RE: Judge them by their words - by MalabarJag - 11-02-2019, 12:42 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by jj82284 - 11-02-2019, 01:36 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 11-02-2019, 02:26 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by flsprtsgod - 11-02-2019, 03:31 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by flsprtsgod - 11-01-2019, 03:19 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by snaxdelrio - 10-31-2019, 03:14 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by Byron LeftTown - 10-31-2019, 04:24 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by jj82284 - 10-31-2019, 10:04 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by rollerjag - 11-02-2019, 10:56 AM
RE: Judge them by their words - by flsprtsgod - 11-02-2019, 11:35 AM
RE: Judge them by their words - by p_rushing - 10-31-2019, 11:07 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by StroudCrowd1 - 11-01-2019, 10:59 AM
RE: Judge them by their words - by jj82284 - 11-01-2019, 03:32 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 11-01-2019, 03:48 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by jj82284 - 11-01-2019, 05:28 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by JagNGeorgia - 11-01-2019, 05:49 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 11-01-2019, 09:29 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by jj82284 - 11-01-2019, 10:59 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by JagNGeorgia - 11-02-2019, 12:28 AM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 11-02-2019, 09:02 AM
RE: Judge them by their words - by jj82284 - 11-02-2019, 04:48 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by Byron LeftTown - 11-02-2019, 09:40 AM
RE: Judge them by their words - by jj82284 - 11-02-2019, 12:36 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by JagNGeorgia - 11-02-2019, 03:22 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 11-02-2019, 04:12 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by JagNGeorgia - 11-02-2019, 05:04 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 11-02-2019, 06:06 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by jj82284 - 11-02-2019, 07:18 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 11-02-2019, 09:01 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by JagNGeorgia - 11-02-2019, 08:31 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 11-02-2019, 09:09 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by jj82284 - 11-02-2019, 09:30 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 11-02-2019, 09:41 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by jj82284 - 11-03-2019, 03:11 AM
RE: Judge them by their words - by Byron LeftTown - 11-03-2019, 05:53 AM



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