(11-02-2019, 02:26 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(11-02-2019, 12:42 PM)MalabarJag Wrote: Knowingly stating something that's true while it's only a meaningless factor in the whole picture to make a point is "spin," which is a type of lie.

You originally claimed that asking for foreign help in an investigation was unethical. Manafort was the counter argument. It was fair game to request info on Manafort although that should have been done in the original context. Instead it was in a clear, long after the fact, spite move to make him a victim because he couldn't or wouldn't provide any dirt Trump.

If Joe Biden got his son a fat "paycheck" by using his position to coerce a foreign power, that's far worse than asking for any information the foreign power had on the topic.

No that is not what I said. 
I said that US prosecutors should only initiate investigations when there is probable cause for violations of US law.
and Ukrainian prosecutors should only initiate investigations when there is probable cause for violation of Ukrainian law.
The two prosecutors can ask each other for help once one has decided to initiate an investigation, but there is no good reason for a US prosecutor to care if Ukrainian law is violated. there is no reason for a US prosecutor to demand that a Ukrainian prosecutor initiate an investigation.