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2020 NFL Free Agents


(02-26-2020, 03:37 PM)Jagsfan32277 Wrote: We need to get this guy

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2878...c-ogletree

Yeah, we should get him.

"Ogletree, one of the league's highest-paid inside linebackers over the past two years at $10 million per season, became a liability in pass coverage and saw his playing time diminish."
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Interesting...if nothing else.

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=28792590
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Looking like Rivers will go to the Colts and Brady to possibly the the Titans. #becausejaguars
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(02-27-2020, 01:41 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Looking like Rivers will go to the Colts and Brady to possibly the the Titans. #becausejaguars

I'm more worried about (the possibility of) Brady going to the tacks than Rivers going to the clots. tacks were a playoff team this year. Have a beast RB, a good D, a solid TE, a real good young WR and a solid OL.

Rivers was essentially THE reason the Bolts weren't good this year. He must have set personal records for back breaking INTs.
I don't think the clots roster is better (or much better) than the bolts.
I know historically Rivers has been a Jags killer, but that was mostly on the west coast.
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*whispers* Tannehill last year was WAY better than Brady was last year, or will be for the rest of his career.
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(02-27-2020, 04:28 PM)Upper Wrote: *whispers* Tannehill last year was WAY better than Brady was last year, or will be for the rest of his career.

Go look at the talent level on offense for both teams at every position other than QB and you will see the reason why.
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(02-27-2020, 01:41 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Looking like Rivers will go to the Colts and Brady to possibly the the Titans. #becausejaguars

Good. That puts the Jaguars to get Trevor Lawrence with the #1 overall pick.
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(02-26-2020, 03:37 PM)Jagsfan32277 Wrote: We need to get this guy

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2878...c-ogletree

lol the article says he was cut after becoming a liability in coverage. Is there any free agent with a remotely recognizable name that you don’t want to spend money on?
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(This post was last modified: 02-28-2020, 10:17 AM by Mikey.)

(02-27-2020, 04:28 PM)Upper Wrote: *whispers* Tannehill last year was WAY better than Brady was last year, or will be for the rest of his career.

*whispers* This guy gets it.

*normal voice* I hope both teams (shoes and tacks) overpay for aging QB getting by on reputation, and discover that the magic is gone once their cap takes a monster hit.

Colts already have something like 30M tied up in Luck's dead money and Brissett's deal, adding Rivers is not going to do them any favors in short OR long term. Sure, they have tons of cap room, but this is the equivalent of flushing cash down the terlet.

(02-28-2020, 01:26 AM)TJBender Wrote:
(02-26-2020, 03:37 PM)Jagsfan32277 Wrote: We need to get this guy

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2878...c-ogletree

lol the article says he was cut after becoming a liability in coverage. Is there any free agent with a remotely recognizable name that you don’t want to spend money on?

@Marcell Dareus@
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(02-27-2020, 04:28 PM)Upper Wrote: *whispers* Tannehill last year was WAY better than Brady was last year, or will be for the rest of his career.

I wouldn't say WAY better
2742 yds 22 TD 6 INT - Tanny
4057 yds 24 TD 8 INT - Brady

And Brady didn't have a TE, didn't have decent WRs, didn't have Henry and the OL was meh

Put Brady on the tacks last year and they might have won the SB, since Tanny couldn't quite get much going in the playoffs.
53% vs NE for 72 yds 
50% vs Balt for 88 yards
Tacks coached like he was Bortles with a lead in the AFCG....

jus sayin...
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(02-28-2020, 10:35 AM)Kane Wrote:
(02-27-2020, 04:28 PM)Upper Wrote: *whispers* Tannehill last year was WAY better than Brady was last year, or will be for the rest of his career.

I wouldn't say WAY better
2742 yds 22 TD 6 INT - Tanny
4057 yds 24 TD 8 INT - Brady

And Brady didn't have a TE, didn't have decent WRs, didn't have Henry and the OL was meh

Put Brady on the tacks last year and they might have won the SB, since Tanny couldn't quite get much going in the playoffs.
53% vs NE for 72 yds 
50% vs Balt for 88 yards
Tacks coached like he was Bortles with a lead in the AFCG....

jus sayin...

He also didn't have 2 former All Pros at tackle which huge for a QB
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(02-28-2020, 10:35 AM)Kane Wrote:
(02-27-2020, 04:28 PM)Upper Wrote: *whispers* Tannehill last year was WAY better than Brady was last year, or will be for the rest of his career.

I wouldn't say WAY better
2742 yds 22 TD 6 INT - Tanny
4057 yds 24 TD 8 INT - Brady

And Brady didn't have a TE, didn't have decent WRs, didn't have Henry and the OL was meh

Put Brady on the tacks last year and they might have won the SB, since Tanny couldn't quite get much going in the playoffs.
53% vs NE for 72 yds 
50% vs Balt for 88 yards
Tacks coached like he was Bortles with a lead in the AFCG....

jus sayin...

One of the biggest cases of counting stats lying that I've ever seen. Look at those rate+ stats. I'll just copy the raw numbers, y'all know by now that they're the important per throw stats averaged out to 100 being league average.

Brady - 87 94 95 100 87 93 116 118 95
Tannehill - 145 130 142 131 123 133 104 77 135

Tannehill was basically MVP level and Brady was bad at everything except avoiding interceptions and sacks.
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(02-29-2020, 12:11 AM)Upper Wrote:
(02-28-2020, 10:35 AM)Kane Wrote: I wouldn't say WAY better
2742 yds 22 TD 6 INT - Tanny
4057 yds 24 TD 8 INT - Brady

And Brady didn't have a TE, didn't have decent WRs, didn't have Henry and the OL was meh

Put Brady on the tacks last year and they might have won the SB, since Tanny couldn't quite get much going in the playoffs.
53% vs NE for 72 yds 
50% vs Balt for 88 yards
Tacks coached like he was Bortles with a lead in the AFCG....

jus sayin...

One of the biggest cases of counting stats lying that I've ever seen. Look at those rate+ stats. I'll just copy the raw numbers, y'all know by now that they're the important per throw stats averaged out to 100 being league average.

Brady - 87 94 95 100 87 93 116 118 95
Tannehill - 145 130 142 131 123 133 104 77 135

Tannehill was basically MVP level and Brady was bad at everything except avoiding interceptions and sacks.
So if we could get either of those QBs for just one year(this year)  You're taking Tannehill?
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Without hesitation.
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As stupid as this may sound in every dimension... Tannehill would probably be better suited to play behind our CURRENT Swiss cheese offensive line.

Even with Brady's quick release and whatnot, Tannehill's ability to extend a play with his legs (akin to Bortles) would be a better match.

Regardless, the o-line has to be bolstered this offseason and perform much better than they did last year for us to have any success passing or running period.

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(02-29-2020, 08:54 PM)Upper Wrote: Without hesitation.

Lol
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(02-28-2020, 10:35 AM)Kane Wrote:
(02-27-2020, 04:28 PM)Upper Wrote: *whispers* Tannehill last year was WAY better than Brady was last year, or will be for the rest of his career.

I wouldn't say WAY better
2742 yds 22 TD 6 INT - Tanny
4057 yds 24 TD 8 INT - Brady

And Brady didn't have a TE, didn't have decent WRs, didn't have Henry and the OL was meh

Put Brady on the tacks last year and they might have won the SB, since Tanny couldn't quite get much going in the playoffs.
53% vs NE for 72 yds 
50% vs Balt for 88 yards
Tacks coached like he was Bortles with a lead in the AFCG....

jus sayin...

Tannehil's going to be that journeyman QB in his 30s who keeps getting starting jobs because he finds a way to get teams to the playoffs, but doesn't hold those starting jobs because he can't win once he's there. Like Ryan Fitzpatrick, the guy who replaced him, only Tannehill is more physically gifted than Fitzmagic.

Looking at you, Jeff George.

That's not to slight Tannehill, who is a solid QB, but if the Titans were to think that Brady would be an upgrade in the short term and their goal is to win in the short term, then yeah, it makes sense to go after him.
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I was big on Tannehill being the reason the tacks turned their season around. I'm just not sure he is a franchise guy really. And I wouldn't say he's a better QB than Brady. All things even on a roster Brady is the choice over Tannehill 10 times out of 10.
Brady on that tack roster probably wins the SB.
Tanny on the pats roster probably misses the playoffs.
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(02-29-2020, 12:11 AM)Upper Wrote:
(02-28-2020, 10:35 AM)Kane Wrote: I wouldn't say WAY better
2742 yds 22 TD 6 INT - Tanny
4057 yds 24 TD 8 INT - Brady

And Brady didn't have a TE, didn't have decent WRs, didn't have Henry and the OL was meh

Put Brady on the tacks last year and they might have won the SB, since Tanny couldn't quite get much going in the playoffs.
53% vs NE for 72 yds 
50% vs Balt for 88 yards
Tacks coached like he was Bortles with a lead in the AFCG....

jus sayin...

One of the biggest cases of counting stats lying that I've ever seen. Look at those rate+ stats. I'll just copy the raw numbers, y'all know by now that they're the important per throw stats averaged out to 100 being league average.

Brady - 87 94 95 100 87 93 116 118 95
Tannehill - 145 130 142 131 123 133 104 77 135

Tannehill was basically MVP level and Brady was bad at everything except avoiding interceptions and sacks.

QB rating only? So we can cherry pick which stats matter and which don't?
If a WR catches a ball it improves the QBs stats... if they are missing routes and sucking bad it negatively affects the QBs stats.

Brady was held back by an offense that was inept (Edelman was his only receiver) they won mostly on strong D in a weak division. 
tacks won mostly by running the ball down teams throats and playing with a lead for the most part, with the one exception being the regular season game vs KC.
But even Bortles had a game or two where he just caught fire. For the most part Tanny 'did what he had to do' and wasn't really THE reason for them winning most of their games. Yeah he had solid stats and some good Ratings... but the eye test, especially in the playoffs, shows who he truly was.
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Littleton, Barrett, maybe sherff. Are there any good centers to possibly get Linder back to guard.
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