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Isaiah Simmons?

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(This post was last modified: 01-31-2020, 07:52 PM by flgatorsandjags.)

(01-31-2020, 07:39 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(01-31-2020, 06:20 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Oh man you got me there.  I said he played good in both.  Go read post 28, he stayed in while Poz went out, I needed to remind you of that while you went and looked it up and made up some percentages.  No team runs a 4-3 every play so of course he played MIKE when Poz wasnt in.   

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/t...roster.htm

Ummm.  They were in 4-3 when Poz was in and they were still in a 4-3 when Poz went out. Not sure what this has to do with anything regarding Jack's play at SAM.  The distinction you seem to be missing here is base vs nickel. Both of which are a 4-3 alignment - but only base uses the SAM.   

The important bit here is whether or not Jack is of some special helpfulness when playing what would likely be 30-40% of the 2021 defensive snaps at SAM backer.  You think he was great there. Others think he did better on mike downs that season. 

His play in the middle was so bad this season that I don't have much confidence in him playing well anywhere, but he should be better off at one of the outside spots. 

His ridiculous salary would make him playing SAM pretty laughable from a front office perspective. 
I do think his skillset lends itself better to playing the weakside.  I just don't think he's going to play well anywhere if he doesn't learn how to diagnose the formations across from him, anticipate what's coming from them, and stop allowing motion to move him out of position. 
He's regressed rather than improved in all of those aspects. 

Personally, if Simmons were drafted, I think it might make sense for him to play SAM because when they switch to nickel defense - he could then stay on the field as the nickel corner at times, as the SS at other times, and as the WLB at times depending on matchups and opponent. 

Sometimes pulling Hayden (who only has a year left here) , Harrison, or the WLB (whoever it may be) in order to keep Simmons out there would be kind of cool IMO. 
Of course I don't think Wash would ever do any of that.

When we ran nickel Poz came off the field and Colvin came in.   We took a LB off the field and added a nickel corner. I never said Jack was great but he was pretty good until we moves him to MLB.  If Simmons played Will he would still be on the field for pretty much every down.  Even if we ran quarter, dime or what ever you could keep him in if you wanted.  In 2016 it was rare the we didnt have at least 2 LBs on the field at all time.  I think everyone knows Jack is overpaid but there isnt anything you can do about that right now.  I wouldn't replace Hayden or Harrison for Simmons, I'd keep him at LB.  Even Minkah said when Pit kept him at 1 position it helped him a ton and he became an All Pro in year 2.  As Simmons gets experience then you came move him a little but his rookie year I would just play him at LB the majority of the time
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Isaiah Simmons? - by Andy G - 01-21-2020, 01:58 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by JAllen#41 - 01-21-2020, 02:34 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by Cleatwood - 01-21-2020, 02:38 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by JAllen#41 - 01-21-2020, 03:36 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by The Real Marty - 01-22-2020, 08:07 AM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by Upper - 01-21-2020, 03:55 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by TheSchmidt - 01-21-2020, 04:18 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by JackCity - 01-21-2020, 04:20 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by JAllen#41 - 01-21-2020, 04:35 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by NYC4jags - 01-21-2020, 04:54 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by TJBender - 01-29-2020, 03:16 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by pirkster - 01-21-2020, 07:09 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by Andy G - 01-22-2020, 06:31 AM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by Upper - 01-22-2020, 11:28 AM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by Andy G - 01-22-2020, 03:59 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by The Real Marty - 01-29-2020, 04:11 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by JackCity - 01-29-2020, 04:21 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by NYC4jags - 01-30-2020, 03:21 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by JackCity - 01-30-2020, 03:50 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by JackCity - 01-22-2020, 12:00 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by JagJohn - 01-22-2020, 12:15 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by Caldrac - 01-22-2020, 12:31 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by NYC4jags - 01-22-2020, 12:46 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by flgatorsandjags - 01-23-2020, 06:49 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by Andy G - 01-30-2020, 04:59 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by flgatorsandjags - 01-30-2020, 08:15 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by The Real Marty - 01-31-2020, 06:11 AM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by flgatorsandjags - 01-31-2020, 07:10 AM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by The Real Marty - 01-31-2020, 08:49 AM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by flgatorsandjags - 01-31-2020, 12:21 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by Kane - 01-31-2020, 12:48 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by flgatorsandjags - 01-31-2020, 01:00 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by Kane - 01-31-2020, 01:11 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by Upper - 01-31-2020, 10:29 AM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by The Real Marty - 01-31-2020, 10:37 AM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by Kane - 01-31-2020, 11:28 AM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by flgatorsandjags - 01-31-2020, 12:28 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by JackCity - 01-31-2020, 12:35 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by flgatorsandjags - 01-31-2020, 12:44 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by JackCity - 01-31-2020, 01:00 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by flgatorsandjags - 01-31-2020, 01:22 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by JackCity - 01-31-2020, 01:29 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by flgatorsandjags - 01-31-2020, 02:07 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by JackCity - 01-31-2020, 02:08 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by flgatorsandjags - 01-31-2020, 02:11 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by JackCity - 01-31-2020, 02:14 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by flgatorsandjags - 01-31-2020, 05:49 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by JackCity - 01-31-2020, 06:05 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by flgatorsandjags - 01-31-2020, 06:20 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by NYC4jags - 01-31-2020, 07:39 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by flgatorsandjags - 01-31-2020, 07:51 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by NYC4jags - 01-31-2020, 08:34 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by flgatorsandjags - 01-31-2020, 09:29 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by JackCity - 01-31-2020, 09:36 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by flgatorsandjags - 01-31-2020, 10:13 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by NYC4jags - 02-01-2020, 01:31 AM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by flgatorsandjags - 02-01-2020, 08:42 AM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by NYC4jags - 02-01-2020, 02:03 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by flgatorsandjags - 02-01-2020, 02:25 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by JagNGeorgia - 01-31-2020, 02:13 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by Andy G - 02-01-2020, 08:26 AM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by The Real Marty - 02-01-2020, 09:18 AM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by flgatorsandjags - 02-01-2020, 09:55 AM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by TheSchmidt - 02-01-2020, 03:15 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by flgatorsandjags - 02-01-2020, 03:27 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by Andy G - 02-01-2020, 04:36 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by NYC4jags - 02-01-2020, 05:00 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by Upper - 02-01-2020, 12:22 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by JackCity - 02-01-2020, 03:38 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by flgatorsandjags - 02-01-2020, 03:45 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by JackCity - 02-01-2020, 03:48 PM
RE: Isaiah Simmons? - by flgatorsandjags - 02-01-2020, 01:20 PM



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