(02-07-2020, 08:12 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote:

(02-07-2020, 07:15 PM)mikesez Wrote: He's going to go do similar work for maybe exactly the same amount of money only three miles away.
This is a nothingburger. Not the first time people made lateral moves due to personal conflicts and won't be the last.

As a citizen you and I are allowed to say whatever we want about the President with no fear of repercussion.

As a member of the United States military you're not allowed to be overtly critical of the commander-in-chief. So.....

In public, yes, you're not supposed to be critical.  But if you feel that you've received illegal orders, or seen someone else in the military doing something illegal, you have a duty to report, and to disobey.

Remember, we did not accept the "just following orders" defense at Nuremburg.  Even though trying to make Ukraine a pawn of the Republican party isn't as bad as genocide, the principle applies to all illegal acts.

Whether or not the act was actually illegal is irrelevant.  You have a duty to report and disobey if you think it's illegal.  The legal system works out if it was illegal or not, not you.

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(02-07-2020, 08:30 PM)homebiscuit Wrote:

(02-07-2020, 08:12 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: As a citizen you and I are allowed to say whatever we want about the President with no fear of repercussion.

As a member of the United States military you're not allowed to be overtly critical of the commander-in-chief. So.....

Not to mention he has a reputation as an overly political ladder climber. That idiot Sondland is gone too.

Sondland was a civilian.  Different rules apply.

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