(03-02-2020, 09:12 PM)Sneakers Wrote:

(03-01-2020, 10:07 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: You think people that live in the Brooklyn area are never going to venture outside the 1.25 square miles of their neighborhood??  And I never said I thought that little neighborhood would support downtown development by itself.
It will take lots of these people that are currently allergic to being asked for spare change in a parking lot to get off of their fearful butts and support new businesses on at least a semi regular basis. Brooklyn was merely an example pointing out that nearby areas are experiencing an influx of residents. Which would obviously benefit the proposed dining and live music options included in Lot J. 

Do you really need me to describe the dining, nightlife and entertainment options that draw people in other cities to their downtowns?  Really?  This isn't rocket science. The template is out there a thousand times over. 

This whole "not so nice area" thing is baffling to me. Are you concerned for your safety driving Bay street from the Prime Osborne center to the stadium?  Seriously?? That's a "not so nice area?" C'mon.

Of course Brooklyn area residents will venture outside of their neighborhood.  They may even visit your "entertainment complex" occasionally.  They may also go to the Town Center or the beaches.  The point is their impact is just a drop in the bucket and there is other competition for their disposable income, both in Brooklyn and elsewhere.  You're the one who thought that "hundreds" of new residents was significant, not I.

I, for one, find the constant panhandling annoying and prefer areas where I don't have to deal with it.

Sounds like you expect Lot J to become Bourbon Street...…….....not happening.

The "not so nice area" thing is baffling to you because you're not looking at the overall picture.  Not everyone will be approaching on Bay Street.  Everything to the east of Lot J is industrial.  North of the stadium isn't exactly pretty.  There are still plenty of vacant/boarded up buildings within a couple blocks of the new courthouse.  Sorry, but downtown Jacksonville isn't anything special.