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The Case for Going QB Early (Long)

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(03-25-2020, 12:01 AM)Bullseye Wrote:
(03-24-2020, 05:06 PM)Caldrac Wrote: My thoughts with the first eight picks in the draft is that realistically there's a good chance you're not going to see Chase Young, Jeffrey Okudah nor Isaiah Simmons slip to us with the 9th overall pick. I like Derrick Brown. And he may or may not be there. It would be hard for me. I like Andrew Thomas at LT. But I think he's a better run blocker than pass blocker, and this is from watching a lot of Georgia games. He's rated highly in pass protection because they rarely pass the damn football. I don't really know how well he'll hold up in pass protection at this level. 

Wirfs is a freak of nature. Becton is too. But he seems more raw. Wills is another freak of nature but him and Wirfs BOTH have not had much experience at LT. That concerns me with our team's current situation. I like any one of those receivers there though. Jeudy, Lamb and Ruggs. I think you're getting an excellent compliment to Chark. BUT. . . I really like Jefferson as a slot receiver at the next level. And you could possibly get him at 20 later on that night. 

Young is a no brainer at 9. Okudah is a no brainer at 9. Simmons is a no brainer at 9. Derrick Brown? I don't know. I like Kinlaw a little bit more in the pass rushing department. And I think later on between Neville Gallimore, McTelvin Agim, Khalil Davis & Jordan Elliot that we can get a pretty good DL3T. And I like Leki Fotu and Benito Jones as DL1T. 

So. . . tough call. But, if for whatever odd reason that Young, Okudah or Simmons slip to us at 9? I am running up to the podium with their names on the card. Just like last year where we all really, really, really WANTED Hockenson at TE. But Josh Allen at DE was just too damn good to pass up on. That was a gift. You can't mess that up.

As of now. Based on how I *think" the first eight picks are going to play out. My choices would be:

1. One of the top three overall defensive players magically fell for the taking between Young, Okudah & Simmons
2. Best WR on your draft board is selected between Jeudy, Lamb & Ruggs
3. Trade down a little bit and see if you can still gain Kinlaw at DT, Ruggs or Lamb at WR or Becton at LT

That's my ideal scenario right now.

So now, my question is how does taking Young, Okudah, Simmons or Brown (for that matter) at 9 directly help Minshew?  Would it be possible to help Minshew directly with picks after a defensive player at 9?  So what's the difference between taking a defensive player at 9 and a QB at 9 if the team thought there was a franchise QB at 9?

(03-24-2020, 04:53 PM)MalabarJag Wrote:
I read Caldrac's post as expecting the Jags to take an offensive player based on the free agent signings, not that that's what he wants.

Personally I'd be appalled if the Jags passed on any of those defensive players you named and picked a WR. I could be OK with taking the top-rated OT instead of Simmons, mainly because he doesn't fit neatly into an NFL defense. Trading down might be an option too, although Caldwell has never traded down in the first few rounds. I don't think he knows how.
(emphasis added)

Same questions to you I posed to Caldrac,

If the primary goal is giving Minshew weapons, how does taking one of those defensive players at 9 accomplish that goal?

It doesn't of course. Just because you have a "primary goal" doesn't mean that you have to do something stupid if the choices don't fit your goal.

Picking a QB at 9 could end up being incredibly stupid too, for three reasons:


1) The usual reason that our pick could be the next QB bust (there have been plenty in recent years even excluding Bortles and Gabbert).
2) Minshew could turn out to be a top five QB (while unlikely, it's not extremely unlikely).
3) If Minshew fails badly enough we are likely in position to draft Lawrence.

Those last two factors didn't exist when the Jags passed on Watson and Mahomes (and Wilson).

In this draft there will be plenty of WR upgrades in rounds 2 and 3, and I've seen plenty of mocks where one of the top three WR and/or OT will still be there at pick 20. It's a crapshoot as to who is the best among the top three at both positions.



                                                                          

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Messages In This Thread
The Case for Going QB Early (Long) - by Bullseye - 03-23-2020, 04:02 PM
RE: The Case for Going QB Early (Long) - by PF* - 03-23-2020, 04:19 PM
RE: The Case for Going QB Early (Long) - by PF* - 03-23-2020, 04:32 PM
RE: The Case for Going QB Early (Long) - by PS9 - 03-23-2020, 09:07 PM
RE: The Case for Going QB Early (Long) - by Upper - 03-23-2020, 05:37 PM
RE: The Case for Going QB Early (Long) - by PF* - 03-23-2020, 06:25 PM
RE: The Case for Going QB Early (Long) - by Upper - 03-23-2020, 06:17 PM
RE: The Case for Going QB Early (Long) - by Upper - 03-23-2020, 07:03 PM
RE: The Case for Going QB Early (Long) - by PS9 - 03-24-2020, 07:18 AM
RE: The Case for Going QB Early (Long) - by Mikey - 03-24-2020, 10:10 AM
RE: The Case for Going QB Early (Long) - by MalabarJag - 03-26-2020, 12:46 PM
RE: The Case for Going QB Early (Long) - by Kane - 03-25-2020, 10:07 AM
RE: The Case for Going QB Early (Long) - by Mikey - 03-26-2020, 08:37 AM
RE: The Case for Going QB Early (Long) - by Kane - 03-26-2020, 10:13 AM
RE: The Case for Going QB Early (Long) - by Upper - 03-26-2020, 10:09 AM



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