(04-11-2020, 08:24 AM)mikesez Wrote:

(04-11-2020, 01:43 AM)jj82284 Wrote: 1.) A lease agreement or a mortgage is a little bit different arrangement than just owning an equity portfolio expecting a dividend.  

2.) Who are you to judge other people's cashflows?  In the case of a lender or a landlord let's say you structure your business based on 5% non payment with a little bit of a cushion up to 10%.  Now your supposed to absorb 0 cashflow from now on?  That's not how ANY of this works!!!

3.) If the state orders a business to close because they are concerned with Faucis charts then it's their OBLIGATION to compensate the business owner for lost revenue.

2) if you are a landlord who needs the cash from your renters to service other debts, I am saying that those debts should also be deferred during this time. Property tax could also be deferred. Of course no landlord would have zero costs; there's still maintenance and security. But everyone else is having to differentiate between essential and non-essential costs - we could have done this a different way.

3) The state is never obligated to help any business. The state should do what it can to minimize the pain of emergency orders, but emergencies are times when there are more important things to consider than a private business' cash flow.

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(04-11-2020, 08:17 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: The Boomers got blue collar jobs, long term careers,  pensions, low cost college, cheap real estate...lots of things they've prevented the following generations from having.

Yup.

Taking clause of the 5th amendment.  If you deprive me of the right to have my business open then I should be compensated.  

The idea that you can just call something an "emergency" and defacto nationalize it is asinine and contrary to the very founding of this nation.

Moreover, we still fall for the same trap time and time again that somehow bureaucrats 1k miles away are better @ makeing decisions
than individuals pursuing their own self interest free from coercion. This episode illustrates that's absurd. Why are we building 100k ventilators we dont need? Cause it ain't there money. Why did we build field hospitals and deploy two navy vessels we didnt need? Cause it ain't their money! Why did we shut down businesses across the southern part of the country in 80% daytime heat? Cause it ain't their money!!!!!

Here's what you do, you go invest millions of dollars to provide quality rental housing or a commercial development and show us all how you can juggle the books with zero money coming in for 6 months.

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