(05-14-2020, 01:19 PM)Last42min Wrote: Dude, a couple of days ago, you tried to accuse me of using the term "world view," as a sneaky term to get people to side with me politically. World view has no association with a broader goal of converting people to a position. It is an understood, and well documented phenomenon that people interpret data through a bias shaped by their experiences. Yet, today, you are totally cool with people looking to redefine socialism, even though they have a clear goal (that has been documented extensively, starting with Marx) to change a capitalist system into a socialist system. This is not some misnomer, and only gullible people fall for it. The goal is state controlled means of production. The plan is to use socialism to subvert capitalism. Read a book.

To be clear, I don't believe every democrat is a socialist, nor do I believe they want a socialist system. I think they are being fools by aligning themselves with Bernie and his base, who very much understand that the end goal is socialism (if not outright communism). And I think a majority of the population, like you, is too stupid and/or naive to know the difference. I think that they will eventually yield  ground to the socialists (already happening), and we will be having a very different discussion 15 years from now.

I wasn't accusing you of trying to be deceptive.  I was only pointing out that the word is often used by people who are trying to gain your confidence and your allegiance, and that you might have picked it up from such people.  World view is not typically invoked to create empathy between people with different life experiences.  It is not typically invoked as something that builds passively in us as we go through life.  It is usually invoked as something we should actively consider and change within ourselves - "You don't have a consistent worldview, you should also support B if you support A!"  In fact, I can't remember reading someone use the word in the more benign sense you're using it.

Anyhow, I only said that as a caution to you, not to call you out or anything.

And I totally agree that the nuances in the word socialism are often exploited by deceivers.  I'm just saying, let's discuss those nuances.  I'm not trying to deceive anyone, and I don't think you are either.

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