(05-14-2020, 05:59 PM)TJBender Wrote:

(05-14-2020, 05:08 PM)mikesez Wrote: We need a military to sustain the system we have today in FL and in the US.  There would be big problems if suddenly our leaders said, "We will never call the military or the police to calm stuff down".

Ok, let me rephrase for those who need it spelled out explicitly:

If your socialist government is in place only because a military machine is required to keep it there by way of intimidating citizens into never engaging in any legitimate activity that threatens to remove it (like voting or speaking openly against it), then your government is no longer socialist. In a socialist government, there is still choice, and the military exists primarily for dealing with foreign threats. In a communist government (leaning on my own education here, haven't watched Last42min's video yet), the key function of the military is to serve as a tool of intimidation used to ensure that the ruling party never leaves power.

Military will always be involved in a socialist government. Someone always has to lead and there are very few leaders who are willing to remain equals to everyone they are leading. Sanders is case in point where he hasn't even made it to a socialist government and he is already built his millions up.

Greed is the main reason that socialism cannot exist in the world. Utopia can exist in a small group of people, but as it grows, the group cannot survive as leadership's power grows and they no longer provide value.

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