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Poll: How does the Ngakoue situation play out?
This poll is closed.
Ngakoue gets traded before the season starts
15.82%
25 15.82%
Ngakoue gets traded after the season starts but doesn't play for Jags prior
15.19%
24 15.19%
Ngakoue plays for Jags until being traded prior to deadline
12.66%
20 12.66%
Ngakoue signs a long term deal to and plays for the Jags
6.96%
11 6.96%
Ngakoue plays for the Jags on the tag this year
35.44%
56 35.44%
blank #2
3.16%
5 3.16%
corn
10.76%
17 10.76%
Total 158 vote(s) 100%
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Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged)

#18

(03-31-2020, 11:34 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: I don't understand what the sticking point was last year, because as reported, it doesn't make sense.   This has been detailed before, but it bears repeating.   If he turned down 19 million last year because he wanted 23, and therefore he stayed at last year's salary,  then he blew off a bunch of money and we saved a bunch of money.  So mathematically, even if we now give him 23, it's as if he signed last year for 19.   So in those circumstances, it made no sense for him to turn down the deal last year, and it makes no sense for us to not raise it up this year.   So the only reason I can see as to why the two parties cannot agree is that there is something we don't know, or the facts are not as they were reported.

Apparently it wasnt just the per year amount but the length of the guarantee.  Frank Clark's deal was almost like a 3 year guarantee.  Rumors were Yan wanted something similar.  Regardless, while we did save a bunch of money last year by not paying him the $19M, that doesnt mean we should necessarily overpay for future years.  If the rumors are true, it does sound like our offer is better than any other team which kind of makes sense as those others teams have to give up draft equity as well as pay the contract.

But I'm sure if you are Yan, at this point it would look like you caved if you signed with us, so now pride is getting in the way.  Will he swallow his pride and take more money here?  Or will he leave and take less money?  It sounding very possible that he ends up getting a smaller contract elsewhere.  And obviously he missed out on a ton of money last year which he'll never get back.  It's looking more and more likely that he'll finish his career having made less money than he would have had he just signed the original deal we offered.  Fair or not, contract negotiations are their own game and it doesnt appear like he has played this game well.


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Messages In This Thread
Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Jaxson - 03-31-2020, 10:27 AM
RE: NFL.com - Yannick Ngakoue drawing trade interest ahead of draft - by rfc17 - 03-31-2020, 12:34 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by PF* - 04-07-2020, 04:37 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Caldrac - 04-07-2020, 04:46 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Caldrac - 04-07-2020, 05:00 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Jags239 - 04-07-2020, 05:04 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by ATLjag - 04-07-2020, 05:30 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Dimson - 04-07-2020, 06:37 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by knarnn - 04-08-2020, 03:50 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Upper - 04-07-2020, 08:47 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by rfc17 - 04-08-2020, 07:08 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by ATLjag - 04-08-2020, 09:51 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by D-Money - 04-08-2020, 08:24 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Caldrac - 04-08-2020, 10:26 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by rfc17 - 04-08-2020, 09:10 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by PF* - 04-08-2020, 09:42 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by PF* - 04-08-2020, 10:59 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Mikey - 04-08-2020, 11:42 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Upper - 04-08-2020, 11:54 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Newton - 04-08-2020, 12:01 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Upper - 04-09-2020, 12:08 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by knarnn - 04-09-2020, 12:11 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by knarnn - 04-09-2020, 12:18 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Caldrac - 04-09-2020, 01:08 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Upper - 04-09-2020, 12:14 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by knarnn - 04-09-2020, 12:25 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by knarnn - 04-09-2020, 07:51 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Eric1 - 04-09-2020, 07:57 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Caldrac - 04-10-2020, 09:02 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Upper - 04-09-2020, 07:57 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Upper - 04-09-2020, 08:11 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Kane - 04-10-2020, 09:39 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Upper - 04-10-2020, 10:40 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Upper - 04-10-2020, 12:16 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Newton - 04-10-2020, 02:13 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Eric1 - 04-10-2020, 06:17 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by uthill - 04-11-2020, 12:58 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by B2hibry - 04-11-2020, 01:54 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Eric1 - 04-11-2020, 12:15 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Newton - 04-11-2020, 09:49 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Newton - 04-12-2020, 09:34 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by uthill - 04-12-2020, 07:43 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Newton - 04-12-2020, 07:46 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by JNev - 04-20-2020, 01:29 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by knarnn - 04-20-2020, 01:33 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Dimson - 04-20-2020, 01:51 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by NCJag - 04-20-2020, 01:44 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by knarnn - 04-20-2020, 01:53 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by knarnn - 04-20-2020, 01:51 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Mikey - 04-20-2020, 05:09 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by NCJag - 04-20-2020, 03:06 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by D-Money - 04-20-2020, 02:43 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by rocdee - 04-20-2020, 02:44 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Russian - 04-20-2020, 02:55 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by rocdee - 04-20-2020, 02:56 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by JagSwag - 04-20-2020, 03:48 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by RicoTx - 04-20-2020, 03:30 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by NCJag - 04-20-2020, 03:56 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by rfc17 - 04-20-2020, 03:31 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Russian - 04-20-2020, 03:53 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by RicoTx - 04-20-2020, 05:04 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by PF* - 04-21-2020, 09:38 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by knarnn - 04-20-2020, 04:24 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Mikey - 04-20-2020, 05:17 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Jags - 04-20-2020, 05:18 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by BritJag - 04-20-2020, 08:25 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by BritJag - 04-20-2020, 08:55 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Caldrac - 04-20-2020, 05:50 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by NCJag - 04-20-2020, 06:00 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Newton - 04-20-2020, 06:57 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Caldrac - 04-20-2020, 07:26 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by BritJag - 04-20-2020, 09:53 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by scottyg - 04-21-2020, 01:26 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Kane - 04-21-2020, 02:46 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Dimson - 04-21-2020, 08:30 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Mikey - 04-21-2020, 08:43 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Mikey - 04-21-2020, 04:36 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Dimson - 04-20-2020, 11:25 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by RicoTx - 04-21-2020, 08:00 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by PF* - 04-21-2020, 09:43 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Dimson - 04-21-2020, 12:15 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 04-21-2020, 12:19 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by NCJag - 04-21-2020, 12:17 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Kane - 04-21-2020, 12:45 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Kane - 04-21-2020, 03:49 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Kane - 04-21-2020, 12:03 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Brett - 04-21-2020, 12:56 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Kane - 04-21-2020, 04:15 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Newton - 04-21-2020, 04:23 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Kane - 04-21-2020, 04:26 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by knarnn - 04-21-2020, 03:16 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Mikey - 04-22-2020, 08:30 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Newton - 04-23-2020, 08:22 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by ATLjag - 04-23-2020, 08:33 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by knarnn - 04-23-2020, 09:44 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by RicoTx - 04-23-2020, 10:13 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Kane - 04-23-2020, 09:49 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Kane - 04-23-2020, 09:57 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Kane - 04-23-2020, 10:01 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by ATLjag - 04-23-2020, 10:09 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by knarnn - 04-23-2020, 10:21 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by surfon - 04-23-2020, 10:52 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by NCJag - 04-23-2020, 11:21 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by knarnn - 04-23-2020, 12:49 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Kane - 04-23-2020, 11:22 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Dimson - 04-23-2020, 12:22 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by NCJag - 04-23-2020, 01:21 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by knarnn - 04-23-2020, 02:20 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by knarnn - 04-23-2020, 02:52 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Caldrac - 04-23-2020, 04:44 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Eric1 - 04-23-2020, 05:09 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by rfc17 - 04-23-2020, 05:03 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Caldrac - 04-23-2020, 05:16 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Newton - 04-23-2020, 06:28 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by NCJag - 04-23-2020, 06:32 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Dimson - 04-23-2020, 09:57 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Caldrac - 04-24-2020, 01:17 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by knarnn - 04-24-2020, 10:40 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Andy G - 04-24-2020, 04:20 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Andy G - 04-24-2020, 05:20 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by JNev - 04-24-2020, 09:17 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Newton - 04-24-2020, 10:59 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by enigma - 04-24-2020, 11:09 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by NCJag - 04-24-2020, 01:24 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Jag149 - 04-25-2020, 09:44 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Andy G - 04-25-2020, 10:18 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by ColoJag - 04-25-2020, 11:27 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by mikesez - 04-25-2020, 11:45 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by ATLjag - 05-15-2020, 08:19 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Firesky - 04-25-2020, 11:19 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by NH3 - 05-14-2020, 09:16 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Upper - 05-15-2020, 10:56 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Upper - 05-15-2020, 11:48 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Dimson - 05-15-2020, 03:11 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Dimson - 05-28-2020, 09:18 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by mikesez - 05-28-2020, 09:43 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 05-29-2020, 06:38 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by iHaunting Raven - 05-29-2020, 09:27 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 05-29-2020, 10:38 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by The Real Marty - 05-30-2020, 06:54 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by NYC4jags - 05-30-2020, 07:50 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 05-30-2020, 09:18 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by ATLjag - 05-29-2020, 10:37 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Upper - 05-30-2020, 11:06 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by RicoTx - 05-30-2020, 11:48 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Newton - 05-30-2020, 11:15 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Dimson - 05-30-2020, 06:51 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Dimson - 05-30-2020, 11:09 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Upper - 05-30-2020, 11:57 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by RicoTx - 05-30-2020, 02:00 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Upper - 05-30-2020, 03:16 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by RicoTx - 05-30-2020, 04:48 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by surfon - 05-31-2020, 12:18 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by D-Money - 06-01-2020, 08:40 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by scottyg - 06-02-2020, 12:17 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by RicoTx - 06-02-2020, 08:19 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by D-Money - 06-02-2020, 10:24 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by RicoTx - 06-02-2020, 11:24 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by RicoTx - 06-02-2020, 03:18 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by RicoTx - 06-02-2020, 05:30 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Newton - 06-06-2020, 11:14 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Jag88 - 06-06-2020, 11:47 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Newton - 06-06-2020, 12:55 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Dimson - 06-18-2020, 12:05 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Kane - 06-18-2020, 09:49 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by surfon - 06-21-2020, 09:44 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Newton - 06-18-2020, 08:25 AM
newton - by Newton - 06-22-2020, 06:02 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Newton - 06-22-2020, 08:11 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Upper - 06-25-2020, 10:22 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Kane - 06-25-2020, 10:55 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by NCJag - 06-25-2020, 11:53 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by ATLjag - 06-25-2020, 01:27 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by NH3 - 06-26-2020, 05:44 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Kane - 06-30-2020, 03:34 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by NCJag - 07-02-2020, 09:56 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by NH3 - 07-02-2020, 11:27 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Upper - 07-03-2020, 04:02 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Eric1 - 07-03-2020, 06:56 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Upper - 07-14-2020, 11:47 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Kane - 07-15-2020, 03:16 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Kane - 07-15-2020, 03:24 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Kane - 07-16-2020, 09:42 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by empty - 07-16-2020, 09:15 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by EricC85 - 07-15-2020, 07:16 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Kane - 07-16-2020, 09:49 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Kane - 07-16-2020, 10:49 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Kane - 07-27-2020, 02:37 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by ATLjag - 07-27-2020, 11:19 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Kane - 07-27-2020, 02:43 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Kane - 07-28-2020, 11:11 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by surfon - 07-28-2020, 12:55 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Brett - 07-30-2020, 04:46 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by nate - 07-30-2020, 08:27 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by surfon - 07-30-2020, 10:56 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Kane - 08-10-2020, 03:36 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by rfc17 - 08-10-2020, 03:57 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Newton - 08-10-2020, 04:49 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Kane - 08-11-2020, 11:09 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by PAJag - 08-11-2020, 03:13 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by ATLjag - 08-11-2020, 04:11 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by iapetus - 08-11-2020, 10:28 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by NCJag - 08-23-2020, 09:38 AM
newton - by Newton - 08-23-2020, 11:43 AM
RE: newton - by flgatorsandjags - 08-23-2020, 12:26 PM
RE: newton - by Newton - 08-23-2020, 01:54 PM
RE: newton - by jaguarmvp - 08-23-2020, 02:38 PM
RE: newton - by JaG4LyFe - 08-23-2020, 04:07 PM
RE: newton - by The Real Marty - 08-23-2020, 12:33 PM
RE: newton - by Eric1 - 08-23-2020, 04:53 PM
RE: newton - by iHaunting Raven - 08-23-2020, 05:16 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Kane - 08-24-2020, 03:36 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by ATLjag - 08-24-2020, 07:27 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by Kane - 08-25-2020, 09:50 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by uthill - 08-28-2020, 10:00 AM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by uthill - 08-28-2020, 03:23 PM
RE: Yannick Ngakoue (threads merged) - by mikesez - 08-28-2020, 09:00 PM



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