(04-02-2020, 11:46 AM)BritJag Wrote:

(04-02-2020, 10:48 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: To be honest, a 1-15 season would be better than a 5-11 season with Trevor Lawrence entering the draft next year.

If we get the #1 pick in 2021 Season Ticket Sales would go through the roof.

Really? He's that desirable? By Jags folks?

To me, it's temporary pain for a longer term of bliss.

I'd rather not go through that.  Id rather have hit on a franchise QB pick earlier, have players stay here, and go on sustained periods of winning.

But we haven't done that.  We've missed on way too many premium draft picks-QBs and otherwise.

Sometimes, it takes bottoming out and taking a stud QB to turn a team around.

Pittsburgh's fortunes did not turn around until they took Terry Bradshaw after a 1-13 season.

Dallas had three straight losing seasons from 1986-1988 (finishing 3-13) before taking Troy Aikman in 1989.  They wound up winning 3 Super Bowls.

Indy finished 3-13 in 1997 before taking Peyton Manning in 1998.  Since his selection at the top of that 1998 draft, the Colts have been to two Super bowls, winning one, and had ten winning seasons in eleven years, averaging 11/6 wins a season during that time.

Two other notable first pick QBs to have success were John Elway and Eli Manning.  Elway was taken first overall in the legendary class of 1983 draft by the then Baltimore Colts.  However, the Colts were so poorly managed by Robert Irsay (Jim Irsay's dad), Elway refused to play for them, saying he would rather play baseball.  Eventually the Colts gave up on trying to sign him and traded him to Denver where he went on to take the Broncos to five Super Bowls, winning two.

As for Eli Manning, he was taken first overall by the Chargers in 2004, but like Elway and the Colts, Manning did not want to play for the Chargers. The Giants wound up trading for him and winning two Super Bowls with him.


Is it possible to hit on a QB that leads to a period of sustained success without using the #1 overall pick?

Sure.

The 49ers selected Joe Montana in the 3rd round in 1979 and wound up the team of the 1980s.  They continued their success with Steve Young, acquired in a trade from Tampa, and won another Super Bowl in the 1994 season.

The Packers went to back to back Super Bowls in the 1996-1997 seasons with Brett Favre, a QB originally picked in the 2nd round by the Falcons and subsequently traded to the Packers.  They had more success later on by picking Aaron Rodgers towards the bottom of the first round.

The Seahawks have had recent success by taking Russell Wilson going to back to back Super Bowls and several playoffs since 2012.

Of course, everyone knows the history of the Patriots and Tom Brady.

But here's the thing with the teams in the later category.  They not only had to rely on other teams to get the QB position spectacularly wrong, they had to have the GM who recognized that and was willing to take advantage of it.

I want the Jaguars to not have to rely on others to mess up spectacularly in order to land a true franchise signal caller.  That is too tenuous a proposition at too important a position.

If a 1-15 season in 2020 results in a 10+ season career with Trevor Lawrence and a sustained period of success including a Super Bowl, I would gladly endure that to achieve that longer term result.

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