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Trading Down From 9

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(04-07-2020, 03:46 PM)Bullseye Wrote:
(04-05-2020, 07:05 PM)rufftime Wrote: Great topic, I understand the thought that we have ample needs, but I don’t like the idea of accumulating any more picks this year.  Who could we target that would be willing to give up 1st/ 2nd round picks next year?

The Eagles, Bucs, Pats, Cowboys, And Falcons feel like good targets.  They are either in closing Super Bowl windows or have other needs that can really only be addressed early.

Give me more early picks next year and see how long we can keep double digit draft picks going.  I am especially interested in the Bucs/ Falcons/ Pats.  If their vet/ rookie QBs fall apart early they could be picking very early next year.

To me, there are myrad ways to approach this.

From a simple numerical standpoint, we have myriad needs.  I count minimally ten (10) needs on this team:

LT
RG
WR opposite Chark
TE-Oliver unproven; Eifert good but always hurt
DE to replace Yan
DT X 2
CB x 2
S

While it is unrealistic to expect all of these needs to be adequately filled in one draft, the more picks we have the better able we should be able to fill a large number  of these needs.  Caldwell has done well in mining the middle rounds for talent, and he has a lot of mid round picks in a deep draft in several positions of need.

We could use a maneuverability approach.  Multiple picks give the team flexibility to trade up if there is a player we want but fear may not be available when we are on the clock at our original draft slot.  While numerically we may not be adequately and completely replenish the roster, the ability to trade up due to the extra picks may put us in a better position to substantially upgrade one or more positions as opposed to simply replacing more positions.

Finally the extra picks could lead future considerations.  As I mentioned in my original post, a 7th round pick last year led to an extra 6th round pick this year.  The more picks we have, the more likely we'll have a team willing to trade into that spot, possibly for a pick or picks in the future.

While there is a limit as to how many picks can reasonably be expected to turn into pro bowl players or even contributors, the benefits of having multiple pick can exceed those base expectations if played properly.

Spot on. You're spot on. Especially with Caldwell seeming to historically do better overall once he's outside of RD1 in regards to finding starters. I think based on what they've done or tried to do on defense via free agency also ties into your thoughts about not being able to address every need in this year's draft. 

By making defense the focal point in free agency it's now allowed them to make the offense the focal point via the draft. They did make an effort in signing Tyler Eifert at TE. Seems to be a good move when you consider that he's familiar with Jay Gruden's system and we've been in need of some help at that position. 

This is also telling when you also consider that this year's TE class may not have a prospect worthy of a 1st RD selection or possibly even a 2nd RD selection. I don't think it's likely Caldwell sits on three picks in the 4th round, two picks in the 5th round & two picks in the 6th round. 

I think at some point he's going to package those up and try to steal a really good player he likes in RD2 or RD3 by parting ways with a combination of those picks there. Which is very doable. Especially with teams that are depleted with selections this year. Chicago has six picks this year. 

With no 1st RD picks. I wouldn't put it past Caldwell to flip that 20th pick into the 43rd and 50th pick on the opening night as well. Especially if his guy is off the board and he feels he's going to reach at that point on a position that he shouldn't.
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Trading Down From 9 - by Bullseye - 04-05-2020, 12:37 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by JagJohn - 04-05-2020, 01:10 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by Bullseye - 04-05-2020, 01:38 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by JagJohn - 04-05-2020, 02:22 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by PF* - 04-05-2020, 05:01 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by Bullseye - 04-07-2020, 03:22 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by rufftime - 04-05-2020, 07:05 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by Bullseye - 04-07-2020, 03:46 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by Caldrac - 04-07-2020, 03:56 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by Bullseye - 04-07-2020, 04:10 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by flgatorsandjags - 04-05-2020, 07:11 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by Bullseye - 04-07-2020, 03:54 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by Kane - 04-08-2020, 11:19 AM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by flgatorsandjags - 04-08-2020, 12:49 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by iHaunting Raven - 04-05-2020, 10:52 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by The Real Marty - 04-06-2020, 05:58 AM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by Bullseye - 04-07-2020, 03:59 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by flgatorsandjags - 04-06-2020, 07:14 AM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by JagJohn - 04-06-2020, 10:56 AM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by Mikey - 04-06-2020, 11:36 AM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by Bullseye - 04-07-2020, 04:19 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by rufftime - 04-08-2020, 09:49 AM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by Bullseye - 04-09-2020, 10:58 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by JAGFAN4EVER! - 04-08-2020, 03:23 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by Bullseye - 04-09-2020, 11:09 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by Upper - 04-08-2020, 03:41 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by The Real Marty - 04-08-2020, 03:45 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by Bullseye - 04-09-2020, 11:21 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by Upper - 04-08-2020, 03:59 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by flgatorsandjags - 04-08-2020, 05:15 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by Bullseye - 04-09-2020, 11:34 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by Upper - 04-08-2020, 05:31 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by flgatorsandjags - 04-08-2020, 06:01 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by Bullseye - 04-09-2020, 11:39 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by Upper - 04-08-2020, 07:01 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by The Real Marty - 04-10-2020, 06:56 AM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by Bullseye - 04-10-2020, 07:40 AM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by JAGFAN4EVER! - 04-10-2020, 03:29 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by anonymous2112 - 04-10-2020, 08:28 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by Bullseye - 04-13-2020, 07:32 AM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by flgatorsandjags - 04-13-2020, 10:24 AM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by anonymous2112 - 04-13-2020, 02:56 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by Bullseye - 04-13-2020, 11:43 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by Mikey - 04-10-2020, 08:44 AM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by Dimson - 04-10-2020, 07:52 AM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by Bullseye - 04-10-2020, 07:59 AM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by Dimson - 04-10-2020, 08:20 AM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by Bullseye - 04-10-2020, 09:12 AM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by Dimson - 04-10-2020, 09:18 AM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by Bullseye - 04-10-2020, 09:26 AM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by Dimson - 04-10-2020, 03:07 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by zrxmike - 04-10-2020, 11:08 AM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by The Real Marty - 04-10-2020, 11:36 AM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by iHaunting Raven - 04-10-2020, 01:52 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by Bullseye - 04-13-2020, 12:49 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by Upper - 04-13-2020, 01:22 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by Bullseye - 04-13-2020, 02:01 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by Bullseye - 04-16-2020, 03:48 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by Upper - 04-16-2020, 04:17 PM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by Bullseye - 04-17-2020, 08:02 AM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by irontrooper83 - 04-17-2020, 10:07 AM
RE: Trading Down From 9 - by Bullseye - 04-22-2020, 04:37 PM



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