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Democrat Protests

#81

(06-03-2020, 02:54 PM)JagJohn Wrote:
(06-03-2020, 02:03 PM)Last42min Wrote:
You know what is world-wide? ANTIFA. Socialism must be global. It's part of the ideology. White supremacists are nationalist.

Lol it's sentences like this that expose your narrow and sheltered view of the world.

Yes, socialism is global. In the vast majority of the world, it's not a dirty word either, and many socialist countries are significantly more harmonious and prosperous than the states. It's only you fools that think of it is as some black-magic voodoo devil-worshipping.

In free countries such as ours socialism is pretty close to being a "dirty word".  We are not a socialist country and the vast majority of us don't ever want it to be.  What sets our system of government apart from many other countries is the opportunity available to each and every person, no matter where they come from or the color of their skin.  A perfect example of that is the very owner of our favorite team (Shahid Khan).  He came from Pakistan with very little and through hard work became a successful business man.  No other country in the world offers the same opportunity.

For every Denmark, Sweden or Norway that you might point out I can name a Cuba, Venezuela or even England from the 60's and early 70's.  Heck, just in the last couple of decades look at what happened to Greece, Spain and most recently France and Germany.

Socialism does not work and is a failed system.  Perhaps learn about the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics because that is probably about as close of a comparison to the United States as you can see.  Some misguided individuals think that we should become the next USSR (United States Socialist Republic).  That's never going to happen here.  Perhaps learn about the Berlin Wall then ask yourself this.  Why do socialist/communist countries build barriers?  Is it to keep people out or to keep people in?


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#82

(06-03-2020, 03:42 PM)JagJohn Wrote:
(06-03-2020, 03:07 PM)MalabarJag Wrote:
Welcome to Venezuela, the socialist country with the largest oil reserves in the world, needing to import oil from Iran.

Right on cue to prove my point.

If your point was that socialism degenerates into totalitarianism, soon destroying the lives of the peasants, then I agree that I proved your point.

And here I thought that you'd claim Sweden was socialist (hint, it isn't).




                                                                          

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#83

(06-03-2020, 02:54 PM)JagJohn Wrote:
(06-03-2020, 02:03 PM)Last42min Wrote:
You know what is world-wide? ANTIFA. Socialism must be global. It's part of the ideology. White supremacists are nationalist.

Lol it's sentences like this that expose your narrow and sheltered view of the world.

Yes, socialism is global. In the vast majority of the world, it's not a dirty word either, and many socialist countries are significantly more harmonious and prosperous than the states. It's only you fools that think of it is as some black-magic voodoo devil-worshipping.

Of these socialist harmonies, how many are anywhere close to our ethnic diversity?  What's the black population of sweden.
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#84
(This post was last modified: 06-03-2020, 07:14 PM by mikesez.)

(06-03-2020, 02:03 PM)Last42min Wrote: I have really considered the white supremacist and the police angle. They have just as much incentive to cast aspersions on the protests (at least initially). I thought the original video I posted here was very shady, and it didn't seem like ANTIFA to me, based on the way the dude acted toward the black man. However, after that, I have watched several videos and it's looking more and more like ANTIFA as the primary antagonist, especially when comparing tactics. It looks exactly like the tactics I was taught and mirrors what I've seen in other ANTIFA videos. They seem to be well funded. Additionally, they are deploying more advanced tactics like staging bricks in planned areas of protest. I find it far fetched to believe white supremacists know where the planned protests are happening. The one piece that really sealed the deal with me was the use of medics and water bottles. This is something ANTIFA  has used for years.

Ultimately, I think Occam's razor applies here. For me to believe white supremacists are the largest agitators of the violence, I would have to believe 1) ANTIFA decided to sit this one out. 2.) White Supremacists didn't want any peaceful protests, so they mobilized immediately to start trouble. 3) The studied and adopted ANTIFA's tactics to frame them as well. 4) Worked and conspired with young blacks and progressives to incite the riots, using a shared language and hiding their southern twang.

The other scenario: Young people who have received training and experience, who take advantage of any civil unrest, who believe that the destruction of the capitalist system is paramount, used that  training and experience to take advantage of civil unrest and attack capitalist institutions. Ad to the fact that they know where the protests are going to happen and they are well funded and defended.

Also (can't believe I forgot the biggest point), these protests and riots are happening world wide. You think the white supremacists are in Quebec? Inciting the people with their fine use of French?

You know what is world-wide? ANTIFA. Socialism must be global. It's part of the ideology. White supremacists are nationalist.

I just have a lot of trouble believing ANTIFA is more significant than the punk rock kids of my generation who would go to concerts hoping to start fights in the moshpit with anyone they perceived to be a skinhead. Never went to a concert where stuff like that went down, but I heard plenty of stories from friends who did.  Nothing more than black eyes and bloody noses.

Difference being, now we have social media and what might have been just a little hometown scuffle turns into a national conversation that nobody really has time for, but no one can turn away from either, compulsive, addictive behavior like a troop of chimpanzees that just found a fig tree for the first time in their lives..
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#85

Antifa is nothing more than a fashion statement for edgy kids. There is no organization

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https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/1...51072?s=19
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#86

Excellent statement from Khan on it all:

https://www.jaguars.com/news/racism-in-a...s-it-kills-
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#87
(This post was last modified: 06-03-2020, 08:21 PM by Lucky2Last.)

(06-03-2020, 07:07 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(06-03-2020, 02:03 PM)Last42min Wrote: I have really considered the white supremacist and the police angle. They have just as much incentive to cast aspersions on the protests (at least initially). I thought the original video I posted here was very shady, and it didn't seem like ANTIFA to me, based on the way the dude acted toward the black man. However, after that, I have watched several videos and it's looking more and more like ANTIFA as the primary antagonist, especially when comparing tactics. It looks exactly like the tactics I was taught and mirrors what I've seen in other ANTIFA videos. They seem to be well funded. Additionally, they are deploying more advanced tactics like staging bricks in planned areas of protest. I find it far fetched to believe white supremacists know where the planned protests are happening. The one piece that really sealed the deal with me was the use of medics and water bottles. This is something ANTIFA  has used for years.

Ultimately, I think Occam's razor applies here. For me to believe white supremacists are the largest agitators of the violence, I would have to believe 1) ANTIFA decided to sit this one out. 2.) White Supremacists didn't want any peaceful protests, so they mobilized immediately to start trouble. 3) The studied and adopted ANTIFA's tactics to frame them as well. 4) Worked and conspired with young blacks and progressives to incite the riots, using a shared language and hiding their southern twang.

The other scenario: Young people who have received training and experience, who take advantage of any civil unrest, who believe that the destruction of the capitalist system is paramount, used that  training and experience to take advantage of civil unrest and attack capitalist institutions. Ad to the fact that they know where the protests are going to happen and they are well funded and defended.

Also (can't believe I forgot the biggest point), these protests and riots are happening world wide. You think the white supremacists are in Quebec? Inciting the people with their fine use of French?

You know what is world-wide? ANTIFA. Socialism must be global. It's part of the ideology. White supremacists are nationalist.

I just have a lot of trouble believing ANTIFA is more significant than the punk rock kids of my generation who would go to concerts hoping to start fights in the moshpit with anyone they perceived to be a skinhead. Never went to a concert where stuff like that went down, but I heard plenty of stories from friends who did.  Nothing more than black eyes and bloody noses.

Difference being, now we have social media and what might have been just a little hometown scuffle turns into a national conversation that nobody really has time for, but no one can turn away from either, compulsive, addictive behavior like a troop of chimpanzees that just found a fig tree for the first time in their lives..

Then you haven't followed it closely enough.

(06-03-2020, 07:21 PM)JackCity Wrote: Antifa is nothing more than a fashion statement for edgy kids. There is no organization

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https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/1...51072?s=19

Please follow up on this in a week. Let me know if there's anymore information on this specific incident.
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#88

(06-03-2020, 06:13 PM)jj82284 Wrote:
(06-03-2020, 02:54 PM)JagJohn Wrote: Lol it's sentences like this that expose your narrow and sheltered view of the world.

Yes, socialism is global. In the vast majority of the world, it's not a dirty word either, and many socialist countries are significantly more harmonious and prosperous than the states. It's only you fools that think of it is as some black-magic voodoo devil-worshipping.

Of these socialist harmonies, how many are anywhere close to our ethnic diversity?  What's the black population of sweden.

It's hard to build a generous welfare state amidst ethic and racial diversity.  This is not the fault of any race or ethnicity in particular.  It's just that, when a do-gooder proposes new high taxes and high benefits, the most convenient argument opposing that is "bad people will exploit that system." That argument more persuasive in a diverse society where people imagine that the "bad people" look different and speak different.  
But I don't mean "persuasive" in the sense that it's a sound argument, just that it persuades people.

If Sweden has few problems of people exploiting their system, I'd expect America to have few problems of that type with a similar system.
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#89

For the people who are innocently ignorant of ANTIFA, Lara Logan has been covering them for many years.  Her segment on Fox & Friends is must-watch for anyone who claims to lack understanding about this worldwide terrorist group, or who thinks a moshpit fight his friend told him about is more significant than ANTIFA burning and looting cities.


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#90

Perfect song for these "Children" rioting......
Black Sabbath's Children of the Grave

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7UZeHvMYZA
Instead of a sign that says "Do Not Disturb" I need one that says "Already Disturbed Proceed With Caution."
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#91

I think the little Antifa wanna bes in Jax Beach got their feelings hurt when I laughed at them tonight. College age white girls in facemasks throwing up Black Power fists...lol attention whores gonna whore.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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#92

(06-04-2020, 09:27 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: I think the little Antifa wanna bes in Jax Beach got their feelings hurt when I laughed at them tonight. College age white girls in facemasks throwing up Black Power fists...lol  attention whores gonna whore.

They grow up so fast.  It seems like it was just last year they were eating Tide pods.


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#93

(06-03-2020, 08:46 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(06-03-2020, 06:13 PM)jj82284 Wrote: Of these socialist harmonies, how many are anywhere close to our ethnic diversity?  What's the black population of sweden.

It's hard to build a generous welfare state amidst ethic and racial diversity.  This is not the fault of any race or ethnicity in particular.  It's just that, when a do-gooder proposes new high taxes and high benefits, the most convenient argument opposing that is "bad people will exploit that system." That argument more persuasive in a diverse society where people imagine that the "bad people" look different and speak different.  
But I don't mean "persuasive" in the sense that it's a sound argument, just that it persuades people.

If Sweden has few problems of people exploiting their system, I'd expect America to have few problems of that type with a similar system.

Do gooders?  Have u studied the history of state based welfare? State based education?  

Schools in Baltimore spend more per student than our european allies.  The schools are worse off.  63% of health costs in this country are paid by the state.  50 plus % of total GD is now allocated by the state.  We have redistributed over 22 trillion dollars since we declared the war on poverty.  

What do we have to show for all this "do-gooderism"  the same people we are trying to help are worse off than we were at the later part of the 20th century and as a consolation prize we have killed more black people on the altar of "social justice" than there were black people alive in 1960.  

How many more millions of people have to die before "do gooders" actually ask if they're doing good.
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#94

(06-05-2020, 08:10 AM)jj82284 Wrote:
(06-03-2020, 08:46 PM)mikesez Wrote: It's hard to build a generous welfare state amidst ethic and racial diversity.  This is not the fault of any race or ethnicity in particular.  It's just that, when a do-gooder proposes new high taxes and high benefits, the most convenient argument opposing that is "bad people will exploit that system." That argument more persuasive in a diverse society where people imagine that the "bad people" look different and speak different.  
But I don't mean "persuasive" in the sense that it's a sound argument, just that it persuades people.

If Sweden has few problems of people exploiting their system, I'd expect America to have few problems of that type with a similar system.

Do gooders?  Have u studied the history of state based welfare? State based education?  

Schools in Baltimore spend more per student than our european allies.  The schools are worse off.  63% of health costs in this country are paid by the state.  50 plus % of total GD is now allocated by the state.  We have redistributed over 22 trillion dollars since we declared the war on poverty.  

What do we have to show for all this "do-gooderism"  the same people we are trying to help are worse off than we were at the later part of the 20th century and as a consolation prize we have killed more black people on the altar of "social justice" than there were black people alive in 1960.  

How many more millions of people have to die before "do gooders" actually ask if they're doing good.

The phrase "do gooder" is typically sarcastic, referring to a mindset, rather than a literal ethical analysis.
See also "bleeding heart".
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#95

(06-01-2020, 12:31 AM)lastonealive Wrote: You ever consider that people carrying weapons has made your police force very jumpy or gives them an excuse to act in an opressive way?

If you knew anything about this country, you would understand the police aren't worried about good guys carrying guns.  They're worried about bad guys carrying guns (or bricks or Molotov cocktails).
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#96

Who changed the name of the thread?
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#97

(06-05-2020, 09:56 AM)jj82284 Wrote: Who changed the name of the thread?

A self-righteous mod no doubt.



                                                                          

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#98

Some do-gooder.
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#99

What was the previous name of the thread?
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(06-05-2020, 11:08 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: What was the previous name of the thread?


Democrat Riots?
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