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AOC’s amendment, to limit US military ads, fails

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(07-31-2020, 07:59 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(07-31-2020, 06:27 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: Try again snowflake.

1.  We currently only have 12 active carriers.  12 - 5 != 14.  You also have no idea what the deployment/maintenance/training/work-up cycle is for not only the ship, but the aircraft that operate on it.  One other thing to think about... the aircraft carrier is one of the reasons why we won the war in the Pacific back in WWII.

2.  We are discussing the military here, not law enforcement.

3.  The National Guard is a reserve component of the military.  Their primary job is to augment active duty units.  If one wants to volunteer to be one of the people who responds during floods, earthquakes and hurricanes perhaps the Red Cross or some other organization would be the better choice.  Trust me.  When I hear the gunfire and the explosions that take place at Camp Blanding it isn't because they are training for natural disasters.  The Air National Guard doesn't fly F-15's out of Jaxport to fight fires.

1) the wasp class ships carry airplanes. So they are also aircraft carriers.

2) our coast guard service members may be surprised to hear you say that they're not in the military. Law enforcement officers can typically quit at any time. Members of the coast guard are enlisted, just like our soldiers and the army, just like our sailors in the Navy. They can't quit until their contract is up. If they try, they are liable to get imprisoned.

3) I agree we need a group of part-time soldiers who are learning the same stuff that our full-time soldiers learn, and ready to go for foreign wars. But if you made me king for a day, I would call that army reserve, and Navy reserve, and air Force reserve only.  I don't understand why we need to rope our National guardsmen into that as well. and I don't think saying "go to the red Cross" is a solution either. The red Cross doesn't set up roadblocks and they don't carry weapons. The red Cross alone cannot adequately respond to natural disasters.

While an amphibious assault ship, or gator freighter in Navy parlance, does carry aircraft, its mission is far less reaching and dynamic as a traditional angle-decked aircraft carrier. Amphibious assault ships are designed to embark a contingent of Marines and deploy them on land while providing close air support with specific missions in mind. They are not free ranging ships which can project power on a global scale with little to no advance mission planning like an aircraft carrier. There's a huge strategic and tactical difference between the two.
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RE: AOC’s amendment, to limit US military ads, fails - by homebiscuit - 08-01-2020, 11:25 AM
Copycat - by copycat - 08-02-2020, 01:55 PM
RE: Copycat - by mikesez - 08-02-2020, 02:46 PM
Copycat - by copycat - 08-02-2020, 03:54 PM
RE: Copycat - by mikesez - 08-02-2020, 04:11 PM
Copycat - by copycat - 08-02-2020, 04:36 PM
Copycat - by copycat - 08-02-2020, 03:23 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-02-2020, 07:50 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-02-2020, 12:44 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 08-02-2020, 01:27 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-02-2020, 01:48 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-02-2020, 07:07 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by Senor Fantastico - 08-02-2020, 07:19 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-02-2020, 07:24 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by Senor Fantastico - 08-02-2020, 08:04 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 08-02-2020, 07:26 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-02-2020, 07:35 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 08-02-2020, 07:55 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-02-2020, 08:30 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by Senor Fantastico - 08-02-2020, 08:48 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-02-2020, 09:37 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 08-02-2020, 09:00 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-02-2020, 09:21 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by JackCity - 08-03-2020, 01:23 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-03-2020, 06:03 AM



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