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AOC’s amendment, to limit US military ads, fails

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(07-31-2020, 07:59 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(07-31-2020, 06:27 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: Try again snowflake.

1.  We currently only have 12 active carriers.  12 - 5 != 14.  You also have no idea what the deployment/maintenance/training/work-up cycle is for not only the ship, but the aircraft that operate on it.  One other thing to think about... the aircraft carrier is one of the reasons why we won the war in the Pacific back in WWII.

2.  We are discussing the military here, not law enforcement.

3.  The National Guard is a reserve component of the military.  Their primary job is to augment active duty units.  If one wants to volunteer to be one of the people who responds during floods, earthquakes and hurricanes perhaps the Red Cross or some other organization would be the better choice.  Trust me.  When I hear the gunfire and the explosions that take place at Camp Blanding it isn't because they are training for natural disasters.  The Air National Guard doesn't fly F-15's out of Jaxport to fight fires.

1) the wasp class ships carry airplanes. So they are also aircraft carriers.

2) our coast guard service members may be surprised to hear you say that they're not in the military. Law enforcement officers can typically quit at any time. Members of the coast guard are enlisted, just like our soldiers and the army, just like our sailors in the Navy. They can't quit until their contract is up. If they try, they are liable to get imprisoned.

3) I agree we need a group of part-time soldiers who are learning the same stuff that our full-time soldiers learn, and ready to go for foreign wars. But if you made me king for a day, I would call that army reserve, and Navy reserve, and air Force reserve only.  I don't understand why we need to rope our National guardsmen into that as well. and I don't think saying "go to the red Cross" is a solution either. The red Cross doesn't set up roadblocks and they don't carry weapons. The red Cross alone cannot adequately respond to natural disasters.

Once again your ignorance is glaring.

1.  An amphibious ship is not an aircraft carrier and doesn't have the firepower that a real aircraft carrier has.  The mission(s) of the two types of ships are not the same.

2.  While yes there is an enlistment for certain members of the Coast Guard, again their mission is primarily law enforcement.  They do not fall under DoD.  They used to be assigned to the DOT and have since been moved to DHS.  Customs and Border Patrol operate in the same fashion.  That's why the CBP officers that come to our building are allowed to be armed.  They are LAW ENFORCEMENT.

3.  Contrary to your wishes, you are not "king" (or queen for that matter).  There is a reason why it's called The Army National Guard, Air Force National Guard, etc.  They are the reserve component to augment active duty units.  When is the last time that the Air Force National Guard set up a roadblock during a national disaster?  What did they use?  F-15's?  F-16's?


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Messages In This Thread
RE: AOC’s amendment, to limit US military ads, fails - by jagibelieve - 08-01-2020, 03:47 PM
Copycat - by copycat - 08-02-2020, 01:55 PM
RE: Copycat - by mikesez - 08-02-2020, 02:46 PM
Copycat - by copycat - 08-02-2020, 03:54 PM
RE: Copycat - by mikesez - 08-02-2020, 04:11 PM
Copycat - by copycat - 08-02-2020, 04:36 PM
Copycat - by copycat - 08-02-2020, 03:23 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-02-2020, 07:50 AM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-02-2020, 12:44 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 08-02-2020, 01:27 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-02-2020, 01:48 PM
homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-02-2020, 07:07 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by Senor Fantastico - 08-02-2020, 07:19 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-02-2020, 07:24 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by Senor Fantastico - 08-02-2020, 08:04 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 08-02-2020, 07:26 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-02-2020, 07:35 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 08-02-2020, 07:55 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-02-2020, 08:30 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by Senor Fantastico - 08-02-2020, 08:48 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-02-2020, 09:37 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by mikesez - 08-02-2020, 09:00 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-02-2020, 09:21 PM
RE: homebiscuit - by JackCity - 08-03-2020, 01:23 AM
RE: homebiscuit - by homebiscuit - 08-03-2020, 06:03 AM



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