(09-21-2020, 01:01 AM)JagNGeorgia Wrote:

(09-20-2020, 11:09 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: Really? Are you willing to adopt any of the unwanted children that will be put into foster care if Roe vs. Wade is overturned? There will be a ton of them. We'll see a spike in child murder, child abuse, crime (as some of the kids growing up in foster care will feel unwanted and have no role models to teach them right from wrong.) Then you have to factor in the added cost of all these new people and the strain it will have on the already overcrowded foster care system. Taxpayers are gonna have to build new group homes to house these children, because there is already not enough foster families to take in the kids that there is now. There will also be more children born with handicaps and birth defects and that will put a bigger strain on the healthcare system, so prepare for your premiums and co-pay to go up. It's so hypocritical of people to just want something gone without coming up with solutions to the dire ramifications that action will create.

That’s such a silly argument. Why am I responsible for directly caring for other people that choose not to care for the people they just birthed? That entire argument requires that, if you don’t want something to happen (pick anything), then you have to be responsible for everything that happens. 

All those things you say will rise is based on conjecture. You don’t know that. If it’s OK to kill them before they’re born, why stop afterward? We could eliminate a lot of hungry kids if we compassionately euthanized all these poor children. I understand that you don’t believe them to be human yet, but the justification you gave is outside of that. You cited abuses, crimes, and suffering as justifiable reasons, and If those are good reasons to eliminate life then it shouldn’t matter when it’s eliminated.

If you're imposing your will to force something into existence, then you are responsible for that thing. If you take away abortion, there will literally be hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of people born into miserable circumstances and someone has to take care of them until their 18. I'm pro choice and I have never wanted kids, so why should my tax dollars pay for them when I was fine with abortion and these people not existing in the first place? If you want to force them to exist, then you take care of them.
That's a stupid argument that makes no sense at all. You are just throwing absurd things out there. One is an extreme method of birth control to prevent and unwanted child that doesn't exist yet and the other is murder of a living, breathing human that already exist. If you can't see the difference, you need help. 
I said that people eliminating abortions would be directly responsible for bringing these kids into miserable conditions. It's not life if you never existed at all. You keep talking in circles, but you have never directly addressed my question. What do YOU and other people like you, plan to do about all these new people you will force into existence? I presented all the problems that would arise if Roe vs. Wade were overturned, yet you have offered no solutions what so ever. How would you address the rise in crime, poverty, suicide, cost and many other ramifications created by undoing abortion laws? It's a simple question with no good or realistic answers. I have yet to find a pro-life person that will even attempt to answer those questions, because they know they can't.

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(09-21-2020, 04:12 AM)Jag88 Wrote: Bottom line with this supreme court justice show down is that who ever wins will set the rules and if that happens, things are about to change. Nobody is respecting history and previouly respected on norms. It's all about power now for sure. Dems will retaliate when and if they get the senate and then  eventually Republicans will fire back. The extremes win and the moderates suffer

That's what our country has turned into. It's sad. We're turning into what we supposedly hated the most. We might as well become part of the middle east, because our system of government is moving closer and closer to the type of systems they have over there. Each side, (Democrats and Republicans) claim they are protecting our freedoms, but as soon as they gain power, they waste no time in shoving their extreme agendas down everyone's throats.

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