(09-21-2020, 07:53 AM)jj82284 Wrote:

(09-21-2020, 05:53 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: If you're imposing your will to force something into existence, then you are responsible for that thing. If you take away abortion, there will literally be hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of people born into miserable circumstances and someone has to take care of them until their 18. I'm pro choice and I have never wanted kids, so why should my tax dollars pay for them when I was fine with abortion and these people not existing in the first place? If you want to force them to exist, then you take care of them.
That's a stupid argument that makes no sense at all. You are just throwing absurd things out there. One is an extreme method of birth control to prevent and unwanted child that doesn't exist yet and the other is murder of a living, breathing human that already exist. If you can't see the difference, you need help. 
I said that people eliminating abortions would be directly responsible for bringing these kids into miserable conditions. It's not life if you never existed at all. You keep talking in circles, but you have never directly addressed my question. What do YOU and other people like you, plan to do about all these new people you will force into existence? I presented all the problems that would arise if Roe vs. Wade were overturned, yet you have offered no solutions what so ever. How would you address the rise in crime, poverty, suicide, cost and many other ramifications created by undoing abortion laws? It's a simple question with no good or realistic answers. I have yet to find a pro-life person that will even attempt to answer those questions, because they know they can't.

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That's what our country has turned into. It's sad. We're turning into what we supposedly hated the most. We might as well become part of the middle east, because our system of government is moving closer and closer to the type of systems they have over there. Each side, (Democrats and Republicans) claim they are protecting our freedoms, but as soon as they gain power, they waste no time in shoving their extreme agendas down everyone's throats.

What are you talking about?  We spent roughly 20 some odd TRILLION dollars on the war on poverty since the mid 60's. 

1.) Stop importing foreign poor people to replace the poor people that you kill out of convenience. 
2.) Stop subsidizing women's studies programs, basket weaving etc. 
3.) School choice
4.) Less regulations/better trade to encourage further economic growth.  

In absolute terms, every child born in the worse conditions in this country is born ahead of virtually every child ever born before the 1950's and 95% of the children born since then.  This defeatist nihilistic ideology that life is just too hard, so we have to condone mass genocide to ease the pain is laughable.