(11-11-2020, 02:57 AM)jj82284 Wrote:

(11-11-2020, 12:16 AM)mikesez Wrote: The governor made three proposals.
One, allow any citizen to shoot someone who commits a burglary within 500 ft of a disorderly assembly. Sounds dumb, too many arbitrary conditions that people won't understand, invites confrontation between untrained people.  Hire trained, armed, security guards instead.
Two, make blocking traffic a felony, and offer immunity to people who injure protestors that were blocking traffic.  This is dumb, it's already a crime.  People who block traffic usually go to jail.  It's infrequent already.
Third, remove state funding from cities who "defund" their police departments.  Dumb again.  One, no city in FL has done this.  Two, are we saying that a government agency must always increase it's expenditure? That's the opposite of conservative.  Conservatives are supposed to be the ones who want to cut spending.  Three, these are local government decisions that Tallahassee doesn't need to worry about.  A real conservative would care about preserving the distinct roles of state and local government, and not try to make the one the slave of the other.

These ideas aren't conservative.  They are just trying to ride Trump's coattails, and Trump's not going to be around in a couple of months.

Best of luck to our governor, may he remember the values that got him that seat in Congress in the first place.

Whats the foundation of conservatism?  Property rights.  

Ur welcome

#ambientignorance

Property rights are one of many things that conservatives should defend at this moment. Life and liberty are the two others that Locke mentioned.  We should never sacrifice lives at the altar of property.

And you would do well to remember that Locke was a radical in his time.  He wasn't conservative.  He was beyond liberal.

The bedrock of conservatism is to be skeptical of people who want to "fix" society by changing laws.  The bedrock of conservatism is that any change to law or to appropriation or to tax will have unintended adverse consequences.  

Be skeptical of people who want to change the law. Be skeptical to changing the structure of authority. It's rarely more complicated than that.  

As a conservative, I am skeptical of what DeSantis is trying to do here.

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