(04-01-2021, 09:58 AM)Kane Wrote: I really think you all are giving Vic too much crap about this. During the off season you have to ponder all the things to make these Q&A columns stay fresh.
Someone else brought up the scenario a few Ask Vic's ago about "what it would take"... Vic is spit balling what it would take and why it would be good for each franchise.
Trevor absolutely would give Carolina an extended fanbase (similar to the way people linked Trevor's hometown just north of Jville as him being "hometown" enough to draw that too)
4 firsts (or some blockbuster type trade) would absolutely give Jacksonville so much draft equity that even the worst GMs probably couldn't screw it up too bad. (well.... most)
And I said long ago and will keep saying it, Trevor Lawrence might be as close to a legit thing as possible, but no one knows until the Sunday games start... so he could in theory still flame out or not end up as good as another QB in this draft. And with the game evolving the way it is, QB is becoming an easier position to play and transition from college to the NFL. There are no sure things in the NFL at any position.

Will we trade the pick? No. Should we? No. Is Vic pounding the table for the Jags to do it? I don't get that sense and yeah, Vic has always been a lil snarky when people write his column and try to push back on his ideas and views... he's been that way since way back so that's nothing new.

I don't get all the hub bub about his column... It's one guy and his views and opinions (and sometimes his really great insight and historical stories). Not much different than Ozone or a number of other blogs (except markedly better imo).
Let's unwad the panties y'all.

Dude,

Ketchman put his views out for public consumption.

Just like in a traditional marketplace, when a producer introduces an inferior product, the consumers will push back in one manner or another, so it is in the marketplace of ideas.  If he puts out an inferior product-in this case ridiculous ideas-he should expect some negative push back.

He spent YEARS lamenting and wagging his finger at the state of the Jaguars fanbase, and now he advocates trading away the one player at the one position that could rejuvenate the franchise and the fanbase...to a rival franchise at that to bolster their fanbase?!?

He spent years telling us tacitly and expressly how the Jaguars should emulate the Steelers, yet when we have the chance to get our Bradshaw in the same manner the Steelers landed Bradshaw, he wants us to pass?!?

He spent years telling us that BAP drafting is the way to go because to do otherwise would enable superior talent to go to competing teams.  Now, he calls Lawrence "the logical choice" to be the #1 overall pick for Jacksonville, which indicates at least tacit acknowledgement of his talent level.  So it's not that he thinks that Lawrence isn't good.  So if Lawrence is good enough to be the logical #1 pick...and good enough to make Carolina a two state team, why in the blue hell would we trade him away?!?

I don't want to hear anything about multiple draft choices, either.  If Lawrence is as good as everyone thinks, it wouldn't be long until Carolina is a contender, which means those first round picks would likely be LOW first round picks.  Remember how disappointed we were when the Rams made the playoffs last season?  We were disappointed because the first round pick we got in exchange for Ramsey wouldn't be as high as we thought, which would make it harder for us to trade up and get a guy like Pitts.  What do you think would happen to those picks if we traded Lawrence to Carolina and he led them to championship contention?  It would be the football equivalent of the Indians selling Manhattan to the colonists for a quarter.

His argument about QBs being produced every year is equally laughable.  He mentions Spencer Rattler and some other guy as likely the top QB candidates next year.  Have any of you heard either of these QBs desribed as a generational QB prospect the way Lawrence has been described?  Have either of these guys been compared to Elway, Luck or Manning by respected draft experts like Lawrence has?!?  If franchise QBs now grow on trees on an annual basis, why would Carolina trade four first round picks to get this one?!?  They could simply draft Jones, or in a worst case scenario, wait until next year and pick one off the QB tree.

Fulfilling the duty to make his column fresh in the offseason does not obligate him to promulgate stupid and self contradictory ideas, nor should it insulate him from well deserve criticism for doing so.

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