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Tim Tebow- Jags new TE (merged)


(06-25-2021, 01:38 PM)Mikey Wrote:
(06-25-2021, 09:31 AM)Race Bannon Wrote: I won't be.  I appreciate the team giving him a shot, am enjoying the newness of the Jags situation with Trevor, and will consider it completely understandable if Tebow doesn't make the roster.  Way "back when" when pundits said he should switch to tight end, I thought they were wrong.  I do not think the position is well-suited to Tebow's body type or skill set.  Offensively, he's a fullback.  Defensively, he would be a great middle linebacker.  

If he makes the squad, I will still believe he is not truly making as a conventional TE.  I will believe they want him for special teams and goal line, and hope he can improve at TE.

I think it's a perfectly healthy attitude, one that should be the default attitude.

...so you think everyone should be of the mindset that we brought timmy in for special teams and goal line?

"The board would be so much better if everyone thought like I did"

I was referring to wishing him the best, but accepting that it's most likely he is cut. That's more of an attitude. The idea that it is not expected he would be at contributing level on conventional TE duties? That's my belief -- that special teams, gadget, goal line is what he could contribute now.

But, if my shining example can serve as a beacon of light to others, so be it.

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(06-25-2021, 10:06 AM)Race Bannon Wrote:
(06-25-2021, 10:03 AM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [Image: giphy.gif]

On the linebacker point, I don't mean now -- I mean his body and physical skill set were more suited to middle linebacker to begin with.  In other words, I think the idea that he should have switched to TE early in his career were not well founded.

Not now, not 10 years ago, not ever. 
Having the body means nothing. And no, he doesn't have the skills to be a "great MLB".

He was a great college player and he is a terrible NFL player, period.
"Treyvon Wallet is elite run defender and better overall than Aidan Hutchinson" 11/11/23


(06-25-2021, 02:17 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote:
(06-25-2021, 10:06 AM)Race Bannon Wrote: On the linebacker point, I don't mean now -- I mean his body and physical skill set were more suited to middle linebacker to begin with.  In other words, I think the idea that he should have switched to TE early in his career were not well founded.

Not now, not 10 years ago, not ever. 
Having the body means nothing. And no, he doesn't have the skills to be a "great MLB".

He was a great college player and he is a terrible NFL player, period.

Blasphemy!
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(06-25-2021, 02:17 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote:
(06-25-2021, 10:06 AM)Race Bannon Wrote: On the linebacker point, I don't mean now -- I mean his body and physical skill set were more suited to middle linebacker to begin with.  In other words, I think the idea that he should have switched to TE early in his career were not well founded.

Not now, not 10 years ago, not ever. 
Having the body means nothing. And no, he doesn't have the skills to be a "great MLB".

He was a great college player and he is a terrible NFL player, period.

He was an okay college player... he will never be remembered for anything he did statistically.. it'll always be, oh remember that one jump pass he did? Gimmick garbage. That's what he was in College that's what he is now. A gimmick.

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(06-25-2021, 02:42 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote:
(06-25-2021, 02:17 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: Not now, not 10 years ago, not ever. 
Having the body means nothing. And no, he doesn't have the skills to be a "great MLB".

He was a great college player and he is a terrible NFL player, period.

He was an okay college player... he will never be remembered for anything he did statistically.. it'll always be, oh remember that one jump pass he did? Gimmick garbage. That's what he was in College that's what he is now. A gimmick.

Never remembered for anything he did statistically in college? He scored more touchdowns than anyone in SEC history -- breaking Hershel Walker's long-standing record. He did so while also throwing for about the same number of touchdowns as Peyton Manning. Thing of it -- one player who rushes for touchdowns at the clip of Hershel Walker, while throwing for touchdowns at the clip of Peyton Manning. He was the first 30/20 man. He broke the record (at the time) for passer efficiency record (still in top 10)

I think you're trolling -- if anything, statistics were his thing in college.

(06-25-2021, 02:17 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: Having the body means nothing.
Well, it is relevant to trying to guess if this will work. For example, many have opined thatt he does not "have the body" of a tight end. It is your judgment that it "means nothing" to talk of "having the body," but it was one of the reasons I was skeptical back then that he should just instantly declare himself a tight end and switch positions. Here, I pointed out he has the body of a middle linebacker to illustrate that he does not actually have the body of a tight end.

But I understand -- you think the body is irrelevant. Good -- he doesn't have the body of a TE and he's going out for TE.

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Dominic Rhodes should have been the MVP of that Super Bowl
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(06-25-2021, 03:04 PM)Race Bannon Wrote:
(06-25-2021, 02:42 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: He was an okay college player... he will never be remembered for anything he did statistically.. it'll always be, oh remember that one jump pass he did? Gimmick garbage. That's what he was in College that's what he is now. A gimmick.

Never remembered for anything he did statistically in college?  He scored more touchdowns than anyone in SEC history -- breaking Hershel Walker's long-standing record.  He did so while also throwing for about the same number of touchdowns as Peyton Manning.  Thing of it -- one player who rushes for touchdowns at the clip of Hershel Walker, while throwing for touchdowns at the clip of Peyton Manning.  He was the first 30/20 man.  He broke the record (at the time) for passer efficiency record (still in top 10)

I think you're trolling -- if anything, statistics were his thing in college.

(06-25-2021, 02:17 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: Having the body means nothing.
Well, it is relevant to trying to guess if this will work.  For example, many have opined thatt he does not "have the body" of a tight end.  It is your judgment that it "means nothing" to talk of "having the body," but it was one of the reasons I was skeptical back then that he should just instantly declare himself a tight end and switch positions.  Here, I pointed out he has the body of a middle linebacker to illustrate that he does not actually have the body of a tight end.  

But I understand -- you think the body is irrelevant.  Good -- he doesn't have the body of a TE and he's going out for TE.

Well, at least now I know I should not take you seriously.
"Treyvon Wallet is elite run defender and better overall than Aidan Hutchinson" 11/11/23


If we are going to do something idiotic like take Trevor out around the goal line, I'd rather replace him with someone that has quickness (a la Mike Vick or Kordell Stewart type player).


(06-25-2021, 03:56 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: If we are going to do something idiotic like take Trevor out around the goal line, I'd rather replace him with someone that has quickness (a la Mike Vick or Kordell Stewart type player).

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(This post was last modified: 06-25-2021, 07:16 PM by OzJohnnie.)

The anti-Tebow crowd can sling the base, personal insults but Race Bannon is cleaning you up in the debate. Race stays polite and on point while the anti-Tebow dodges from one insult to the next. If Tebow shows up in practice like Race shows up in here, particularly if the level of competition is equivalent, then Tebow is making the starting 11.


(06-25-2021, 07:14 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote: The anti-Tebow crowd can sling the base, personal insults but Race Bannon is cleaning you up in the debate.  Race stays polite and on point while the anti-Tebow dodges from one insult to the next.  If Tebow shows up in practice like Race shows up in here, particularly if the level of competition is equivalent, then Tebow is making the starting 11.

Yeah, I mean twisting what people say or adding something they didn't actually say shows a lot.

Also, saying Tebow would make a great MLB just because he has the body is hilarious (since he never showed any MLB skills), not to mention his hilarious attempt at trying to block on a punt play. Put any MLB in the league to do the same and they won't look as pathetic.

Saying "the fact that Tebow has the body to be a MLB means nothing"  body doesn't matter/is irrelevant.
"Treyvon Wallet is elite run defender and better overall than Aidan Hutchinson" 11/11/23


(06-25-2021, 07:14 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote: The anti-Tebow crowd can sling the base, personal insults but Race Bannon is cleaning you up in the debate.  Race stays polite and on point while the anti-Tebow dodges from one insult to the next.  If Tebow shows up in practice like Race shows up in here, particularly if the level of competition is equivalent, then Tebow is making the starting 11.

Race, having multiple accounts is technically against the code of conduct, just so you know.
I'm condescending. That means I talk down to you.


(06-25-2021, 08:39 PM)MarleyJag Wrote:
(06-25-2021, 07:14 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote: The anti-Tebow crowd can sling the base, personal insults but Race Bannon is cleaning you up in the debate.  Race stays polite and on point while the anti-Tebow dodges from one insult to the next.  If Tebow shows up in practice like Race shows up in here, particularly if the level of competition is equivalent, then Tebow is making the starting 11.

Race, having multiple accounts is technically against the code of conduct, just so you know.

Laughing
"Treyvon Wallet is elite run defender and better overall than Aidan Hutchinson" 11/11/23

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(06-25-2021, 09:31 AM)Race Bannon Wrote:
(06-24-2021, 10:48 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: You should go ahead and get presumptively mad about it now.

I won't be.  I appreciate the team giving him a shot, am enjoying the newness of the Jags situation with Trevor, and will consider it completely understandable if Tebow doesn't make the roster.  Way "back when" when pundits said he should switch to tight end, I thought they were wrong.  I do not think the position is well-suited to Tebow's body type or skill set.  Offensively, he's a fullback.  Defensively, he would be a great middle linebacker.  

If he makes the squad, I will still believe he is not truly making as a conventional TE.  I will believe they want him for special teams and goal line, and hope he can improve at TE.

I think it's a perfectly healthy attitude, one that should be the default attitude.

You missed my point. 

I was making fun of your baseless assertions about what people will say if he’s cut and how you’re clearly already in your feelings about it.


(06-25-2021, 03:31 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote:
(06-25-2021, 03:04 PM)Race Bannon Wrote: Never remembered for anything he did statistically in college?  He scored more touchdowns than anyone in SEC history -- breaking Hershel Walker's long-standing record.  He did so while also throwing for about the same number of touchdowns as Peyton Manning.  Thing of it -- one player who rushes for touchdowns at the clip of Hershel Walker, while throwing for touchdowns at the clip of Peyton Manning.  He was the first 30/20 man.  He broke the record (at the time) for passer efficiency record (still in top 10)

I think you're trolling -- if anything, statistics were his thing in college.

Well, it is relevant to trying to guess if this will work.  For example, many have opined thatt he does not "have the body" of a tight end.  It is your judgment that it "means nothing" to talk of "having the body," but it was one of the reasons I was skeptical back then that he should just instantly declare himself a tight end and switch positions.  Here, I pointed out he has the body of a middle linebacker to illustrate that he does not actually have the body of a tight end.  

But I understand -- you think the body is irrelevant.  Good -- he doesn't have the body of a TE and he's going out for TE.

Well, at least now I know I should not take you seriously.

How'd it take you 70 posts from him to decide that? lol

I thought that was pretty obvious after his first couple of posts.


(06-25-2021, 11:25 PM)Eric1 Wrote:
(06-25-2021, 03:31 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: Well, at least now I know I should not take you seriously.

How'd it take you 70 posts from him to decide that? lol

I thought that was pretty obvious after his first couple of posts.

I haven't paid that much attention to the topic  Ninja
"Treyvon Wallet is elite run defender and better overall than Aidan Hutchinson" 11/11/23


So Tebow plays Fullback yeah?
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(06-25-2021, 07:14 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote: The anti-Tebow crowd can sling the base, personal insults but Race Bannon is cleaning you up in the debate.  Race stays polite and on point while the anti-Tebow dodges from one insult to the next.  If Tebow shows up in practice like Race shows up in here, particularly if the level of competition is equivalent, then Tebow is making the starting 11.

Who do you think you are Steve Kornacki?

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I don't think Tebow is going to make the team. I don't think he's going to beat out the 4 other TEs on the roster.


(06-26-2021, 09:50 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: I don't think Tebow is going to make the team.   I don't think he's going to beat out the 4 other TEs on the roster.

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